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  • MDPopescu
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    #21
    Originally posted by sterling
    Lederman? loool
    ... and again: Feldman, Lederman, Weisfeld...

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    • Oregonian
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      #22
      Originally posted by ChadVegas
      Funny the article didn't mention
      1. WILDER THREW 100 MORE PUNCHES

      2. WILDER WAS THE AGRESSOR 95% OF FIGHT

      3. FURY WAS OUT COLD
      saved by bad decision by ref

      4 Wilder landed the harder punches by far not slaps
      —————

      When you get knocked out cold you don’t stand up after 15 seconds, shake it off and continue to fight the same way you did for 11 rounds.
      Fury was dropped but he was not out cold.
      I’ll give you multiple examples;
      • Canelo knocked Khan out Cold
      • PAC knocked Hatton out cold
      • Sergio Martinez knocked P Williams out cold

      Marquez knocked pac out cold

      The difference between those KO’s and others aka TKO’s are pretty obvious. Examples;
      • Floyd TKO’d Hatton - it was not a cold KO because Hatton was staggering all over the place
      • Ruiz vs AJ - same thing. AJ was not out cold
      • PAC vs Cotto - Cotto was saved by the ref but he wasn’t out cold


      Lastly, being the aggressor against a pure boxer means exactly what?
      Everyone that has fought Rigondeaux is typically the aggressor and they all got beat except for Loma.
      Last edited by Oregonian; 02-14-2020, 10:22 AM.

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      • Amir Imam
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        #23
        Originally posted by ChadVegas
        Funny the article didn't mention
        1. WILDER THREW 100 MORE PUNCHES

        2. WILDER WAS THE AGRESSOR 95% OF FIGHT

        3. FURY WAS OUT COLD
        saved by bad decision by ref

        4 Wilder landed the harder punches by far not slaps
        Yep people down want to admit this. Many people may have not noticed it due to all the goofing around Fury was doing the whole night. Look at the punches landed and you’ll see a fight that could’ve went either was especially when you factor in the knock downs

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        • Buggy bear
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          #24
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          This is never going 12 rounds...... Fury has far better conditioning and Wilder will stay committed to land his punch throughout.

          I think Wilder will take a lot of damage in this fight, from the jab and inside work of Fury.
          not so sure , fury is aging badly , yard short in his footwork , has to take the shot , if wrong I bow to your greater wisdom.. peace .. just what I feel and see ..

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            #25
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            ... and again: Feldman, Lederman, Weisfeld...
            What are you trying to say? Be upfront about it.

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            • Angeljuice
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              #26
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              Originally posted by thereeldeel
              The judges will be under pressure to score the fight correctly this time, which should mean an easy decision win for Tyson Fury (unless off course Wilder gets the KO).
              Same thing happened in the first Lewis vs Holyfield fight, it was an absolute robbery, the rematch was scored correctly as a comfortable win for Lewis. Same thing should happen here.
              The States are so corrupt when it comes to judging, they don't want a British judge doing a proper job, it may tarnish their planned whitewash.

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              • Angeljuice
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                #27
                Originally posted by ChadVegas
                Funny the article didn't mention
                1. WILDER THREW 100 MORE PUNCHES

                2. WILDER WAS THE AGRESSOR 95% OF FIGHT
                NY
                3. FURY WAS OUT COLD
                saved by bad decision by ref

                4 Wilder landed the harder punches by far not slaps
                1) He threw more but landed less, that is a bad statistic.

                2) He was the aggressor but he hardly touched Fury and Fury made him look like an amatuer.

                3) You say a man who was out cold jumped up and beat Wilder silly for the rest of the round? A count is the refs count to ten, not ten seconds, never has been (otherwise Ali would have lost his title to Henry Cooper).

                4)He landed harder punches but lost 8 or 9 rounds and was terrible.

                Fury was the only one who walked away with his head held high.

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                • landotter
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                  #28
                  Only flat-Earther types that want to see conspiracies think Nationality matters in judging. Being a judge for a fight like this is what every one of these people work to. One bad card can set you back for your entire career and you never recover. There are bad judges, but if both fighters sign off on the judges for a particular fight than any whining afterwards falls on my deaf ears. This is one of the most important things a fighters team can do for them, and both Fury and Wilder have teams they trust.

                  Despite what fans/haters on either side think, the first fight was not a robbery on either side. I HATE draws, and despise that judges are not forced to pick a winner which is what they are paid for. But that is why this rematch is so compelling and why the discussions of judges are so important. I am still picking Wilder like I did for the first match. But in all honesty, I feel Fury should have been given a tight decision in the last fight.

                  If boxing matches were just uneven number of rounds, about 90% of all draws would be eliminated and I personally would be a much happier boxing fan.

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                  • Terrell1555
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                    #29
                    BS! Rounds 1-3 clearly Wilder won maybe even round 4, and certainly round 9, and 12, so I could see a draw! But when I consider Jack R. Count Tyson is the one who got the gift! He KO’D Tyson!

                    But whatever this is some BS and they making excuses! I thought he said he is going to KO Wilder in 2 anyway! As we get closer Fury and his squad seem less confident!

                    I got Wilder by KO 1- 7!

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                    • OldTerry
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Oregonian
                      —————

                      When you get knocked out cold you don’t stand up after 15 seconds, shake it off and continue to fight the same way you did for 11 rounds.
                      Fury was dropped but he was not out cold.
                      I’ll give you multiple examples;
                      • Canelo knocked Khan out Cold
                      • PAC knocked Hatton out cold
                      • Sergio Martinez knocked P Williams out cold

                      Marquez knocked pac out cold

                      The difference between those KO’s and others aka TKO’s are pretty obvious. Examples;
                      • Floyd TKO’d Hatton - it was not a cold KO because Hatton was staggering all over the place
                      • Ruiz vs AJ - same thing. AJ was not out cold
                      • PAC vs Cotto - Cotto was saved by the ref but he wasn’t out cold


                      Lastly, being the aggressor against a pure boxer means exactly what?
                      Everyone that has fought Rigondeaux is typically the aggressor and they all got beat except for Loma.
                      Actually Fury himself admits to being out cold. He doesn't remember the knockdown and he said when he got up it was like he had just woke up. Didn't recall any pain as well. So let's call it what it was a "Flash" knockout.

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