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  • Vinnykin
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    #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Ortiz is a world class heavyweight with Cuban national team pedigree.

    No shame in struggling with him then knocking him out. Twice.
    He lost to Pulev as an amateur, also Pulev has a far better record as a pro, and is younger, and not on medicine for blood pressure..... make sure you apply the same standard when critiquing Joshua's opponent/s.

    So if Joshua beats Pulev he should get credit...... and if he loses rounds, he lost to a BETTER and more decorated amateur than Ortiz..... right?

    Just need to know where you stand....

    P.S... I already know because Ortiz is totally unproven and you are talking nonsense.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Vinnykin
      He lost to Pulev as an amateur, also Pulev has a far better record as a pro, and is younger, and not on medicine for blood pressure..... make sure you apply the same standard when critiquing Joshua's opponent/s.

      So if Joshua beats Pulev he should get credit...... and if he loses rounds, he lost to a BETTER and more decorated amateur than Ortiz..... right?

      Just need to know where you stand....

      P.S... I already know because Ortiz is totally unproven and you are talking nonsense.
      Totally unproven yet slept Bryant Jennnings right after Jennings had gone the distance with Klitschko.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Totally unproven yet slept Bryant Jennnings right after Jennings had gone the distance with Klitschko.
        Boasting about Jennings?

        You Ortiz nut-huggers (Wilder fans) ae literally the ONLY fans in world boxing I have seen elevate an unrovene boxer after being sparked twice.

        The **** is wrong with you?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          Boasting about Jennings?

          You Ortiz nut-huggers (Wilder fans) ae literally the ONLY fans in world boxing I have seen elevate an unrovene boxer after being sparked twice.

          The **** is wrong with you?
          Again, Jennings at that time had given Klit a good fight and lasted the distance.

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          • Vinnykin
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            #45
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Again, Jennings at that time had given Klit a good fight and lasted the distance.
            Chisora gave Vitali a better fight.... the WBC emeritus.

            So Fury's two wins mean as much as Ortiz?

            Triangle shiat doesn't work man..... Ortiz done FA in the amateurs or pro's before facing Wilder.... the fact you mention Jennings makes me cringe, for you.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ChadVegas
              Funny the article didn't mention
              1. WILDER THREW 100 MORE PUNCHES

              2. WILDER WAS THE AGRESSOR 95% OF FIGHT

              3. FURY WAS OUT COLD
              saved by bad decision by ref

              4 Wilder landed the harder punches by far not slaps
              5 you are talking poo poo

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                #47
                Originally posted by Vinnykin
                Chisora gave Vitali a better fight.... the WBC emeritus.

                So Fury's two wins mean as much as Ortiz?

                Triangle shiat doesn't work man..... Ortiz done FA in the amateurs or pro's before facing Wilder.... the fact you mention Jennings makes me cringe, for you.
                Nobody is talking triangle theories. We were discussing what level Ortiz has proven himself to be at.

                But you're an AJ ballwasher obviously so logical arguments are going to drop on deaf ears.

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                • Vinnykin
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Nobody is talking triangle theories. We were discussing what level Ortiz has proven himself to be at.

                  But you're an AJ ballwasher obviously so logical arguments are going to drop on deaf ears.
                  YOU stated the triangle, not me. "Jennings went 12 with Klitschko and Ortiz KO'd him" that's a triangle dum dum.

                  I am a Fury fan, actually think Wilder beats AJ....

                  You idiots actually talk about logic when your own statements ae verifiable, you think everyone is as dumb as you are.

                  That's an L for you.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin
                    YOU stated the triangle, not me. "Jennings went 12 with Klitschko and Ortiz KO'd him" that's a triangle dum dum.

                    I am a Fury fan, actually think Wilder beats AJ....

                    You idiots actually talk about logic when your own statements ae verifiable, you think everyone is as dumb as you are.

                    That's an L for you.
                    A triangle theory is "A beat B, B beat C, so A must then beat C."

                    But that is not what I'm saying at all. Your reading comprehension is atrocious, either that or you're just being deliberately obtuse.

                    Ask Dillian Shyte how good Luis Ortiz is. He's certainly steered well clear of the old man on blood pressure medicine.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Vinnykin
                      Chisora gave Vitali a better fight.... the WBC emeritus.

                      So Fury's two wins mean as much as Ortiz?

                      Triangle shiat doesn't work man..... Ortiz done FA in the amateurs or pro's before facing Wilder.... the fact you mention Jennings makes me cringe, for you.
                      You say triangle theories don't work then bring up Chisora and Ortiz in the amateurs as if fighters don't improve while in the amateurs.

                      Fury has not looked good in either of his two wins from 2019. Seems every excuse in the book has been used for that since he looked better vs Wilder and you and others wanna use fitness as an excuse for Fury landing a marginal amount of punches above what Wilder landed. The slower Wallin landed on Fury and cut him open. You gonna blame fitness, call it lucky, or just acknowledge that Fury can be hit and if Wilder picks up where he left off, he has a great chance of finishing the fight early.

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