Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Explodes - Tears Apart Eddie Hearn, Anthony Joshua

[KingGilgamesh]

I don't know how you do it! Wilder, Joshua, Hearn, Haymon, Finkel, Warren...every word is scrutinised by someone, somewhere!

Fury talks the most BS of them all! At least Wilder is just plain dumb, he has an excuse.

He's right.

Fury's BS is surprisingly transparent. If you start to analyse, you start to see the tidbits of honesty sneak through.

Fury is not so much a liar as he is a bull****ter. Trust me, they're not the same thing. Hearn is another bull****ter, but he's clever. Whyte is a picture perfect example of a liar.

[Mokong9]

Heavyweight division is trash

This is the worst div in the sport. Complete garbage. Fury has a belt???
He would've been put to shame in the 90's or 70's. The 80's garbage too he might've had a chance.

[-Kev-]

He's talking about himself. The gipsy king says he had to come out of retirement to give pride to uk.

Okay, it confused me. He looks to be all over the place, it wasn’t clear. Especially since he did call Joshua’s opponent old and fat at the very end.

"[Joshua] wasn't man enough to step up and fight Deontay Wilder so he took an old fat bald-headed fella to come out of retirement to stand up for his country. To stand up for his nation because they were getting made to look like clowns. So what Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua says you can't really take too much from that. You know, they speak a lot of hot air and don't back it up.“

"I recently saw [Joshua] get knocked out by an old fat fella so don't come and talk to lineal champion about performing because you know he's a hit and miss performer completely."

The part he says “I recently saw Joshua get knocked out by an old fat fella”, threw me off. Because Ruiz is the same age as Joshua, and younger than Fury and Wilder.

I guess he was referring to himself as the bald guy. But it’s still weird he called Ruiz old.

[Thraxox]

Hearn's reputation has been reformed due to Joshua's good nature. The Hearn's have had a rather storied history in the UK for being, albeit professional, economical with truth and rather slimy when they can get away with it. The crowds don't boo him for fun. I think his duplicity has seeped into Joshua's persona as well and one can see it whenever he starts to speculate on future fights.

I think all the offers he made to Wilder were bull****. I believe he did want to make the Fury Joshua fight happen but would only do so when Fury signed to him for a multi-fight offer. The problem Hearn is the same problem many British SPIVs have. They want to control the whole board whilst failing to realize that boxing is very much a business built on reputation, negotiation and capitulation. Arum and Haymon understand this plenty, hence why they have been around so long. I shudder to think what Hearn would do if Joshua's brand was to crumble tomorrow. He has done nothing to build stars or help cultivate them by working with the other promoters in the game. I actually really enjoyed the Youtube fights recently but that wasn't his idea either, he actually turned it down the first time he was approached to do it. I believe DAZN were the only ones to table a legitimate offer to Wilder but, once again, the multifight aspect of it would have meant Wilder sever ties with Haymon. And that was never going to happen.

I honestly think he got lucky with Joshua. Its not exactly hard to sell a talented, good natured and good looking boxer with a decent skillset with olympic gold. But I also think he has actually been stifling his career in order to maximise the milking of his brand.

How can Hearns offers be bull**** when it was Wilders team that turned down negotiation offers multiple times? And stifling AJs career? Stifling his careee by making him a unified champ under 20 fights? You guys really have a skwlewed way of pov.

If you want to see stifled career look no more than Wilder who declimed to fight Klitschko for the undispited title. Wilder is approaching 35 and out of all the 40 fights had only fought 2 decent guys im Fury and Ortiz. While AJ on the other hamd fought more world champs than Fury and Wilder.

So how can Hearn and AJ be dishonest when they are the ones initiating confirmed negotiations and Wilder and his team are the ones turning it down?

[KingGilgamesh]

How can Hearns offers be bull**** when it was Wilders team that turned down negotiation offers multiple times? And stifling AJs career? Stifling his careee by making him a unified champ under 20 fights? You guys really have a skwlewed way of pov.

Remember what I said about reputation? Hearn has a knack for sending nonsense offers with missing dates or venues. He did the same with Wilder and Finkle and they just grew tired of it and booked out. Sorry but I trust Haymon and co. over Hearn. Call it a hunch, there is email evidence for this exchange too but I wont bore you with it. And yes, stifling. The same thing he is doing to Whyte. He's lulled them into a false sense of security fighting domestically for good money due to his exclusive contract with sky. Yes, its a good payday, but it also smothers them into being nothing but domestic brands. Can you imagine with Whyte slayed Ortiz in the US? It would have shot up his value and Wilder would likely have been forced to take him seriously (he would of been a mandatory anyway). Instead we got a pointless fight with journeyman Chisora who one of the top three beat twice years ago.

Joshua is still practically unknown stateside. His only fight there was an embarrassing loss. He should have had a small early matchup to help him acclimatise with the foreign crowd and the ruthless nature of the refereeing. Joshua's career pre 2017 was moving at a hectic pace but it has since grinding to halt. I see nothing resembling the fire I saw when he took on Brezeale and Wlad. In fact, I think he looks shot (but thats just speculation on my behalf).

If you want to see stifled career look no more than Wilder who declimed to fight Klitschko for the undispited title. Wilder is approaching 35 and out of all the 40 fights had only fought 2 decent guys im Fury and Ortiz. While AJ on the other hamd fought more world champs than Fury and Wilder.

No, Wilder is an example of a career that has progressed at a glacial pace. More akin to 80's and 90's fighters who took ages before they fought for serious contention (often 20-25 fights). Wilder won the WBC after 32 fights. Thats a ****ing lifetime...but it also may be the reason why doesn't seem to crumble under pressure. This seems to be the PBC methodology, I see the same thing being done with DDD. Boxing isn't a sprint, it may lend credence to the possibility that Joshua was progressed too quickly. But, once again we have to see.

So how can Hearn and AJ be dishonest when they are the ones initiating confirmed negotiations and Wilder and his team are the ones turning it down?

Because this is Hearn's play. I knew this the moment he and Whyte claimed they were making an offer to Ruiz. I immediately knew we were in for the Eddie Hearn "ducking" show again. There has been nothing to suggest that Ruiz is even remotely ready for competition. He claimed he had a "big announcement" almost two weeks ago. Like when he fought Parker, he is likely having another bout of self doubt and inactivity. This would now be a wonderful time for Hearn and co. to make an offer He was obviously neevr going to accept and would never come in shape by May. It was bull**** all along...but he'll fool his followers all the same.

[Mooshashi]

Mr Wilder PLEASE knock this nutjob into Bolivian, into the dustbin of boxing history, so we NEVER have to listen to his psychotic, derranged nonsense ever again.

[Fire4231]

Wait wait wait wait wait are you trying to say Beyoncé ‘Flying Elbow Kick’ Windmill, who is unable to string a sentence together in basic English, isn’t a complete and utter idiot?

Lol.... I am saying this, seldom have I run into as many intellectually challenged, confused and abnormally delusional people than the guys who run around this site assaulting on behalf of Eddie Hearn.

In addition, besides the lack of credibility for making the intellect call, many of you wouldn’t give Wilder credit no matter how he showed up. Tyson Fury goes in on Hearn and you guys have to end off with some Wilder hate. Clearly this thing is not emotional.

Anyway... Floyd Mayweather is a much more strategic business man than the guy you worship in Eddie Hearn. However we all know there are many in boxing who would refuse to say it aloud. They even insult the billion dollar fighters intelligence after the most amazing financial run in boxing history. Imagine that?

Btw- Language is just one part of the minds capability. However someone’s ability to speak quickly and articulately is more environmental than a true sign of overall human capability. When the world has persecuted you for everything you say, it takes a lot more care and concern to speak than the person who has been reinforced their whole lives even when commentary is mean, idiotic or just untruthful.

In my life I have met a high number of very articulate fools. In addition, I have met inarticulate geniuses.

But kudos to the British accent for hiding the fact that you are not all that intelligent by any stretch of the imagination. It really shows up when you are writing and the programmed language cues aren’t available for distraction.

In addition, Wilder just makes more sense than AJ in interviews. He isn’t as intelligent as Fury but he just seems more logical than AJ. AJ does a lot of ineffective pondering that usually leaves us scratching our heads on meaning, context and most importantly purpose of his statements.

Some of the best anti AJ messaging has come from AJ himself. I have seen him go from claiming Wilder is ducking him to in the next interview saying he is not ready for Wilder. I have also seen him try to create allegorical statements that don’t seem to make sense?

But he does have a British accent and a gentlemen’s demeanor as such personality goes along way.

I like very obvious examples. Why... anyone can understand them. Steven Hawking could not verbalize without a machines help. However who would dare to call the man an idiot?

Without that machine a guy like you would say he must be a vegetable. Why... because you are trained to respond to surface cues and you never take the time to truly study and analyze before passing judgment.

[Cadet Bonespurs]

Fury is going to end up in a strait jacket in padded cell

Mental illness is no joke

[Roberto Vasquez]

AJ can go and keep fighting 2nd class old passed their prime boxers

Can't argue with that but Fury and Wilder have been fighting even worse. Remember these guys are 5 years ahead of AJ. AJ has or had 3 belts. Fury and Wilder have one between them

[Monzon99]

Fury is lying. Fury and wilder both turned down career high jackpots and ducked AJ last year. This proves Fury and Wilder are in a business alliance to try to discredit and diminish Joshua's monopoly on the hwt division without having to fight him.

Fury and Wilder can only lie and try to smear AJ, but they won't dare to be great and fight him.

Fury and Wilder fights are fixed rig jobs.