Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Explodes - Tears Apart Eddie Hearn, Anthony Joshua

[wittyal]

Witty

I can't understand what some people are thinking, AJ has been fighting all top fighters since his 15th fight, some people are you blind by Envy and MALACE! Fury need to stop blaming AJ for his drug abuse!

[Marchegiano]

1. Wlad (ex champ)
2. Whyte and
3. Parker (ex champ).

Now, name three elite fighters Fury and Wilder has fought.

I'm waiting...

To be fair, Josh made Parker an ex champ, He's the guy who gets to claim Parker as a champ. Wlad as an ex champ though....Whyte....I dunno why you even mention him.

Povetkin's a better win by a mile.

[Corelone]

To be fair, Josh made Parker an ex champ, He's the guy who gets to claim Parker as a champ. Wlad as an ex champ though....Whyte....I dunno why you even mention him.

Povetkin's a better win by a mile.

KOd by AJ, almost KOd by Parker and fat, off the juice vs Wach isn't bad enough. Now he's the flagbearer?

[markther]

I only deal with the FACTS which I’m sure will piss off a lot of people on this forum.

Joshua beat Whyte who only had 16 fights at the time and Brian Minto was Whyte’s BEST win on his resume. Whyte went on to beat Chisora twice, Parker, & Browne as a more seasoned and experienced fighter.

Joshua won the IBF belt from Charles Martin who beat a guy that broke his leg during the fight.

Joshua beat Dominic Breazeale who only had 16 fights at the time but was destroyed by Wilder in 1 round as a more experienced fighter.

Joshua beat Eric Molina who Wilder has already knocked out about 1 Year prior.

Joshua beat a 41 year old Wladimir who was inactive for 1 year and 5 months after losing to a “prime” Tyson Fury.

Joshua beat Takam who had already lost to Povetkin & Parker in fights prior.

Joshua beat an undefeated Joseph Parker. Solid win at the time. I will give him credit for that one.

Joshua beat a 39 year old Povetkin.

Joshua then got dropped (4) times and stopped my Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua beat Andy Ruiz Jr by unanimous decision in a rematch.

Tyson Fury beat a “PRIME” Wladimir and fought to a draw against Wilder. Beat Chisora twice. Wladimir win and Wilder draw is better than anything on Joshua’s resume.

Wilder knocked out Ortiz twice, destroyed Stiverne in a rematch, destroyed Breazeale in 1 round, and fought to a draw against Tyson Fury. 2 Ortiz knockout wins and Tyson draw is better than anything on Joshua’s resume.

FACTS........LMAO!!!!

[Monzon99]

AJ got run out of N.Y. and he's not even trying to make it right. Hearn set him up in the desert to outrun a fat guy, in a huge ring, just to make sure. Between the tricks Eddy does and Andy and Rivas, the commissions, the investigations, Hearn and AJ are like politicians. Running on promises, popularity, and dirty tricks.

All roads lead to Joshua. Fury and Wilder draw peanuts. They are pretending to be what Joshua is.

[Marchegiano]

KOd by AJ, almost KOd by Parker and fat, off the juice vs Wach isn't bad enough. Now he's the flagbearer?

Whyte though?

[Kannabis Kid]

I only deal with the FACTS which I’m sure will piss off a lot of people on this forum.

Joshua beat Whyte who only had 16 fights at the time and Brian Minto was Whyte’s BEST win on his resume. Whyte went on to beat Chisora twice, Parker, & Browne as a more seasoned and experienced fighter.

Joshua won the IBF belt from Charles Martin who beat a guy that broke his leg during the fight.

Joshua beat Dominic Breazeale who only had 16 fights at the time but was destroyed by Wilder in 1 round as a more experienced fighter.

Joshua beat Eric Molina who Wilder has already knocked out about 1 Year prior.

Joshua beat a 41 year old Wladimir who was inactive for 1 year and 5 months after losing to a “prime” Tyson Fury.

Joshua beat Takam who had already lost to Povetkin & Parker in fights prior.

Joshua beat an undefeated Joseph Parker. Solid win at the time. I will give him credit for that one.

Joshua beat a 39 year old Povetkin.

Joshua then got dropped (4) times and stopped my Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua beat Andy Ruiz Jr by unanimous decision in a rematch.

Tyson Fury beat a “PRIME” Wladimir and fought to a draw against Wilder. Beat Chisora twice. Wladimir win and Wilder draw is better than anything on Joshua’s resume.

Wilder knocked out Ortiz twice, destroyed Stiverne in a rematch, destroyed Breazeale in 1 round, and fought to a draw against Tyson Fury. 2 Ortiz knockout wins and Tyson draw is better than anything on Joshua’s resume.

FACTS........LMAO!!!!

Very good analysis this what they fail to mention haha only thing I disagree with is Parker being a good win for AJ because that referee was terrible and AJ looked like complete **** in that fight with a different ref Parker might've still been champion he's the better boxer between him and Joshua just not the bigger guy or puncher but AJ couldn't land flush on him anyways.

[LoadedWraps]

Damn shots fired at Ruiz too. Called him old, bald, and fat. I know Ruiz is fat but damn he called him old and bald too, which he is neither of those. Unless I misunderstood the article and Fury is talking about someone else. Ruiz is younger than Fury, Wilder, and is the same age as AJ.

Fury vs Ruiz after Wilder KO’s Fury on Feb 22nd.

Fury knows but he just wanted to talk ****.



Fury came out guns blazing, called everyone out, Eddie, Ruiz jr, AJ, all of match room.

[Fire4231]

This is really a brilliant post, there is a ****ton to unpack. And, even as Brit with a pretty solid ability to articulate myself both through the written word and verbally, there is really no denial that many of us have been using our accents to hide a very British kind of ******ity.

It always amused me how people criticise Floyd for his speech impediment when it was clear that Mayweather is probably the greatest matchmaking strategist boxing has ever been graced with. Everything from his shot selection to his near impossible to mimick defensive shell to his careful selection of everything from ring size, to glove to positioning. And thats not even including his business acumen, to become the highest paid athlete despite the sports decline in the noughties is laudable. But then part of that is also down to Al Haymon. Let Brits tell it, a Harvard graduate with an MBA and a decades long promotional career that saw him manage both the king of pop and the most successful boxer of all time was somehow going to be outflanked by a silver spoon raised idiot from Es*** whose only occupation prior to boxing promotion appears to be a stint selling double glazing. Some pedigree there...

I still like Joshua. He always seemed like a decent guy and a credit to him for being one of the few from the ends to "make it". But these days he seems ****ing lost and confused. He was asked to share his opinion on the current political climate in the UK and his answer wasn't just the typical athlete fodder, it was just a jumbled mess of words. Wilder may be inarticulate as hell but he's always been concise and forthright on his feelings as a fighter and even on topics that you wouldn't expect him to be well versed in.

KingGilgamesh it is a privilege to learn of you UK brother. I appreciate anyone who can follow up one of my responses with unpacked truth in commentary that I can not only learn from but show admiration for.

You sir know the gift of truth. I am certain that you understand, when you pull your ideas and thoughts from that sacred well of the actual factual, the words become eerily distinguishable and powerful. Thanks for confirming my su****ions about Eddy. It shows in his business management style.

Carrying on the banter, the British accent is a marvel. Of course, I could be limited by perspective, but I just don’t know anyone who hears it and finds it off putting.

It sounds just as we imagine, an accent that evolved, as something royal and a weapon for conveying intellectual power.
But it’s crippling some of your country men. But at least they have intellectual ambitions. Some here in the states intentionally dumb themselves down. Imagine that.

And thank you for bringing up the anti-celebration that both Al Haymon and Floyd Mayweather get from the US boxing establishment. In my opinion it is boxing’s biggest embarrassment.

Even if some one I completely hated was genius enough to find a cure for cancer, I am not going to pretend that such a universal great deed does not deserve global applause.

These gentleman made boxing the biggest attraction on earth and the boxing establishment rebelled dripping in insecurity and wrath.

Upon discussion, I hear claims that it was the split with Oscar that makes Haymon such a villainous guy.

However Haymon was GoldenBoy’s blessing. The management partner, that supplied them with the talent they couldn’t begin to source on their own.

The coup was orchestrated through and by Richard Schaefer. Another brilliant business man who grew sick of his drug conflicted figure heads back pedaling and media antics.

Oscar is now said to be in complete power at GoldenBoy. Looking at Golden Boys operation and roster today what do we see?

Only a few stars exist, the roster lacks diversity, resources, budgets aren’t being made. The firm is teetering on Bankruptcy.

They have only managed to keep the momentum that Canelo naturally had. The same superstar they had coming in has grown financially through his own intelligence and aggression. If not for Canelo, he may not have one legit accomplishment to take him into the Hall of Fame.

However other talent like Ryan Garcia, isn’t being moved well enough to capitalize on his own popularity. They choose stars they just refuse to believe in them.

Does anyone in their right mind believe Oscar could have created what Al Haymon has with the PBC? So why is there this silly Narrative that Al Haymon stole Oscar’s stable? They signed to Al because he is a brilliant Harvard bred business men who is proven to grow talent immensely across multiple verticals.

But we are all supposed to believe, Oscar complete with his flaws, was truly the most deserving player on the team for maintaining the fight clubs roster?

The establishment should be ashamed for the creation of these hate scripts to take away from what could be boxing histories most valuable players.

Let’s be honest, Oscar the drug distracted figure head of Golden Boy wasn’t making any critical decision. In many situations he wasn’t even showing up. Richard Schaefer and Haymon were responsible for GoldenBoys early success. That success has been continued at PBC and lasted beyond the media intervention of the almighty HBO Boxing. It’s amazing you could see this across the pond and 80% of these American boxing fans believe in the false narrative.

[Vinnykin]

I can't understand what some people are thinking, AJ has been fighting all top fighters since his 15th fight, some people are you blind by Envy and MALACE! Fury need to stop blaming AJ for his drug abuse!

Yeah, not like he was an amateur before that or anything.

He has fought good opponents but Whyte was injured and even more green.... Martin.....Breazeale.... Molina..... his first test was in his 18th fight against an old and beaten Klitschko (still a good test at that stage).

His level of opponents since then has been what you expect of a unified champion.

Best CV at the moment I agree, just don't overplay how he started early.... 18 fights in for a gold medal amateur is not impressive to me in this HW era, at all.