What stars has PBC created?

[Chollo Vista]

I just showed TS 2 PBC fighters (Benavidez/Plant) that produced 750k PPVs

I'm sure that's because of Oscar De La Hoya

[Chollo Vista]

Spence has been with PBC since Jan 2015

According to ShoulderRoll, these fights with Golden Boy is what made him a star:

–0	Francisco Javier Castro	TKO	5 (8), 2:43	Dec 13, 2014	MGM Grand Garden Arena, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
14	Win	14–0	Noe Bolanos	RTD	2 (8), 3:00	Sep 11, 2014	The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
13	Win	13–0	Ronald Cruz	UD	10	Jun 27, 2014	The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
12	Win	12–0	Raymond Charles	TKO	1 (10), 2:52	Apr 18, 2014	Illusions Theater, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
11	Win	11–0	Peter Olouch	KO	4 (8), 1:39	Feb 10, 2014	Cowboys Dancehall, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
10	Win	10–0	Gerardo Cuevas	RTD	1 (8), 3:00	Dec 13, 2013	Fantasy Springs Resort Casino, Indio, California, U.S.
9	Win	9–0	Emmanuel Lartie Lartey	UD	8	Oct 14, 2013	BB&T Center, Sunrise, Florida, U.S.
8	Win	8–0	Jesus Tavera	TKO	1 (8), 2:33	Sep 12, 2013	MGM Grand Marquee Ballroom, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
7	Win	7–0	Eddie Cordova	KO	1 (6), 2:13	Jul 20, 2013	Fantasy Springs Resort Casino, Indio, California, U.S.
6	Win	6–0	Guillermo Ibarra	KO	1 (6), 1:32	Jun 1, 2013	BB&T Center, Sunrise, Florida, U.S.
5	Win	5–0	Brandon Hoskins	TKO	1 (6), 2:35	May 3, 2013	The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas, Paradise, Nevada, U.S
4	Win	4–0	Luis Torres	UD	4	Mar 2, 2013	Our Lady of the Lake University Gym, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
3	Win	3–0	Nathan Butcher	TKO	1 (4), 1:03	Jan 26, 2013	The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
2	Win	2–0	Richard Andrews	TKO	3 (4), 0:44	Dec 15, 2012	Memorial Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
1	Win	1–0	Jonathan Garcia

"Brandon Hoskins and Richard Andrews is why Errol Spence is a star today".

-ShoulderRoll

[ShoulderRoll]

Are you really trying to give Golden Boy credit for Spence becoming a star? Seriously?

No.

I’m trying to get names of stars that PBC has created that don’t have ties to Golden Boy. Can you name any or not?

[ShoulderRoll]

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...be-around-750k

According to Boxingscene, Benavidez vs Plant did around 750k PPVs. Has Golovkin done anything close to that outside Canelo?

Wouldn't that make David a bigger star than GGG?

Sh1t, those numbers make Benavidez a bigger star than Tank Davis without Ryan Garcia.

He might qualify as a star already. Although there will be the question of how much those numbers were due to Caleb Plant and the name recognition he got from facing Canelo and the white audience.

[Chollo Vista]

Sh1t, those numbers make Benavidez a bigger star than Tank Davis without Ryan Garcia.

He might qualify as a star already. Although there will be the question of how much those numbers were due to Caleb Plant and the name recognition he got from facing Canelo and the white audience.

There you have it. Benavidez is a star because of what DLH did with Canelo

Troll thread

[ShoulderRoll]

There you have it. Benavidez is a star because of what DLH did with Canelo

Troll thread

Not at all.

If people want to name David Benavidez as an answer to the question then I’ll accept it.

So…Tank Davis and Benavidez.

Is that it? Anyone else?

[champion4ever]

Golden Boy Promotions never built any of Al Haymon fighters. All of those fighters who fought under the Golden Boy Promotions banner were all legally signed to Al Haymon; Not Oscar De La Hoya thanks to Richard Schaeffer.

Haymon only used Oscar's promotional outfit "Golden Boy Promotions" as a means to help launch his own fighter's careers Like: Gervonta "Tank Davis" Gary Russell Jr, The Charlo boys, Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Adrien Broner, Errol Spence, Jr, Deontay Wilder, Leo Santa Cruz, Shawn Porter and many more.

[ShoulderRoll]

Golden Boy Promotions never built any of Al Haymon fighters. All of those fighters who fought under the Golden Boy Promotions banner were all legally signed to Al Haymon; Not Oscar De La Hoya thanks to Richard Schaeffer.

Haymon only used Oscar's promotional outfit "Golden Boy Promotions" as a means to help launch his own fighter's careers Like: Gervonta "Tank Davis" Gary Russell Jr, The Charlo boys, Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Adrien Broner, Errol Spence, Jr, Deontay Wilder, Leo Santa Cruz, Shawn Porter and many more.

That’s provably false (Wilder won the WBC heavyweight belt while with Golden Boy for example) but that’s not the question I asked.

Can you name PBC fighters, that qualify as stars, who have ZERO connections to Golden Boy?

So far it’s Tank Davis and maybe David Benavidez.

[maguirre]

Moral lesson even now is if you're a boxer who wants to be a star, start with TR or GBP. Then when you become one, sign with any promoter you want or become semi-free agent or something. Ryan Garcia became one instantly just by being with GBP, as one example. And look at Berlanga, what did he do to deserve such prominence other than being associated with TR?

[ShoulderRoll]

Moral lesson even now is if you're a boxer who wants to be a star, start with TR or GBP. Then when you become one, sign with any promoter you want or become semi-free agent or something. Ryan Garcia became one instantly just by being with GBP, as one example. And look at Berlanga, what did he do to deserve such prominence other than being associated with TR?

Good points.