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    #251
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista

    Already did

    You're just a PBC/Al Haymon hater that covers your eyes and ears when presented with the truth

    The truth being is PBC turned said fighters into "stars", not GB.

    No matter how you pose the question, that's the truth
    You didn’t answer the question as posed. Because you can’t.

    How am I a “PBC/Al Haymon hater” if I give credit to the potential stars on the cusp that they do have, in Benavidez and Morrell?

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      #252
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      You didn’t answer the question as posed. Because you can’t.

      How am I a “PBC/Al Haymon hater” if I give credit to the potential stars on the cusp that they do have, in Benavidez and Morrell?
      You're a hater because you can't accept the fact that PBC turned said fighters into "stars". Period

      So instead, you "pose" the question a certain way. GB had no pull whatsoever into turning Spence into a star. Zero
      Last edited by Chollo Vista; 06-24-2023, 10:52 AM.

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        #253
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista

        You're a hater because you can't accept the fact that PBC turned said fighters into "stars". Period

        So instead, you "pose" the question a certain way. GB had no pull whatsoever into turning Spence into a star. Zero
        You must be a PBC/Al Haymon d1ckrider then. Since you can’t accept that they haven’t turned anyone into stars that didn’t get exposure through another promoter first.

        With the exception of Tank Davis.
        Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 06-24-2023, 10:55 AM.

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          #254
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          You must be a PBC/Al Haymon d1ckrider then. Since you can’t accept that they haven’t turned anyone into stars that didn’t get exposure through another promoter first.

          With the exception of Tank Davis.


          Spence has been with PBC since Jan 2015

          According to ShoulderRoll, these fights with Golden Boy is what made him a star:
          –0 Francisco Javier Castro TKO 5 (8), 2:43 Dec 13, 2014 MGM Grand Garden Arena, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
          14 Win 14–0 Noe Bolanos RTD 2 (8), 3:00 Sep 11, 2014 The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
          13 Win 13–0 Ronald Cruz UD 10 Jun 27, 2014 The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
          12 Win 12–0 Raymond Charles TKO 1 (10), 2:52 Apr 18, 2014 Illusions Theater, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
          11 Win 11–0 Peter Olouch KO 4 (8), 1:39 Feb 10, 2014 Cowboys Dancehall, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
          10 Win 10–0 Gerardo Cuevas RTD 1 (8), 3:00 Dec 13, 2013 Fantasy Springs Resort Casino, Indio, California, U.S.
          9 Win 9–0 Emmanuel Lartie Lartey UD 8 Oct 14, 2013 BB&T Center, Sunrise, Florida, U.S.
          8 Win 8–0 Jesus Tavera TKO 1 (8), 2:33 Sep 12, 2013 MGM Grand Marquee Ballroom, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
          7 Win 7–0 Eddie Cordova KO 1 (6), 2:13 Jul 20, 2013 Fantasy Springs Resort Casino, Indio, California, U.S.
          6 Win 6–0 Guillermo Ibarra KO 1 (6), 1:32 Jun 1, 2013 BB&T Center, Sunrise, Florida, U.S.
          5 Win 5–0 Brandon Hoskins TKO 1 (6), 2:35 May 3, 2013 The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas, Paradise, Nevada, U.S
          4 Win 4–0 Luis Torres UD 4 Mar 2, 2013 Our Lady of the Lake University Gym, San Antonio, Texas, U.S.
          3 Win 3–0 Nathan Butcher TKO 1 (4), 1:03 Jan 26, 2013 The Joint, Paradise, Nevada, U.S.
          2 Win 2–0 Richard Andrews TKO 3 (4), 0:44 Dec 15, 2012 Memorial Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
          1 Win 1–0 Jonathan Garcia
          Last edited by Chollo Vista; 06-24-2023, 11:00 AM.

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            #255


            This thread is about trying to name PBC fighters, that qualify as stars, who have ZERO connections to Golden Boy.

            Something that people are apparently having a very hard time doing.​

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              #256
              LMAO what exposure in those first 15 fights? 100 people saw the fights LMAO

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                #257
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll


                This thread is about trying to name PBC fighters, that qualify as stars, who have ZERO connections to Golden Boy.

                Something that people are apparently having a very hard time doing.​
                What exposure did GB give Wilder and Spence??

                How many people saw them fight with Golden Boy?

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                  #258
                  "Spence vs Peter Olouch is why Spence is a star. Because of Golden Boy".

                  - ShoulderRoll

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                    #259
                    “I can’t name a single star PBC created that has zero ties to Golden Boy. Besides Tank Davis.”

                    -Chollo Vista

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                      #260
                      Spence was the 2nd fight on the whole undercard of Khan vs Alexander (GB promotion), so I doubt the fight was even televised. There were 7k people in attendance. I can't find the numbers but someone show me the tv ratings for this fight because this is the reason ShoulderRoll believes Errol Spence is a star today

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