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  • Originally posted by _original_ View Post

    that’s true lol have to give PBC credit for turning Bud into a superstar. Top Rank/ESPN never had the stable or marketing strategy to make him a star.
    Yea the ironic part of this whole thread is TR can't even get the big success off of these star guys. As best as I can tell TR hasn't sold 200k or more PPV's in a non-joint PPV in almost 7yrs, since Manny left. Meanwhile PBC, GBP, Matchroom, hell even Triller have attained those numbers in non-joint PPV's & there have been at least 7 instances of PPV's doing 1M or more by those groups.

    What good is the ability to "build a star", which I still believe is a bs concept cuz stars build themselves promoters just don't fook it up, if you can't even capitalize on it with huge fights fans wanna see?
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    • - - PBC gives once a year good paydays, no more, no less.

      See G Russet Jr, now defunct…

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      • Will Frank Martin become a star if he beats Stevenson?

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        • Is Benavidez a star? It's a large stable with Errol losing the shine.

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          • Wilder, Tank, Errol

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            • Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

              Yea the ironic part of this whole thread is TR can't even get the big success off of these star guys. As best as I can tell TR hasn't sold 200k or more PPV's in a non-joint PPV in almost 7yrs, since Manny left. Meanwhile PBC, GBP, Matchroom, hell even Triller have attained those numbers in non-joint PPV's & there have been at least 7 instances of PPV's doing 1M or more by those groups.

              What good is the ability to "build a star", which I still believe is a bs concept cuz stars build themselves promoters just don't fook it up, if you can't even capitalize on it with huge fights fans wanna see?
              What 7 instances are those by pbc, matchroom, and gbp?

              cause I damn sure don't remember gbp or matchroom doing 1 million ppv buys in america at any point in these last 7 years that you speak of

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              • Originally posted by brettWall View Post
                Is Benavidez a star? It's a large stable with Errol losing the shine.
                What were the PPV numbers for Benavidez vs Andrade?

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                • Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                  What 7 instances are those by pbc, matchroom, and gbp?

                  cause I damn sure don't remember gbp or matchroom doing 1 million ppv buys in america at any point in these last 7 years that you speak of
                  I didn't say Eddie did 1M in the US. But Eddie's had a few AJ fights that did 1M in the UK. Obv the price is different there, but its harder to find revenue info on fights so its easier to talk about buys than revenue. I'm sure TR hasn't had top ten revenue numbers post-Manny as the solo promoter either tho, but I didn't look that up.

                  ODLH did a 1M buy fight or two with the biggest name in the game before he fooked that up.

                  There's been a couple novelty fights that did 1M buys (Tyson vs RJJ, thats the triller fight I mentioned & Floyd vs Logan).

                  And recently Tank vs Ryan got 1M buys.

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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    What do you mean by “created stars”? Promoters don’t create stars, stars create themselves. Promoters create opponents for stars to beat.

                    Floyd, Ali, Leonard, odh, canelo, weren’t created by any promoter. They either came from the Olympic with a huge following or created fan interest by their outside the ring “antics” or both.
                    wait Larryx died ?!

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                    • Originally posted by RyanjLarose View Post

                      wait Larryx died ?!
                      Yes, check the lounge thread.

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