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  • Boxing_1013
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    #81
    Originally posted by Mammoth
    Daggum kept following me around crying. You've accused me of a fighter being "my guy" and I'm the one projecting I guess.

    I know when a conversation isn't going to go anywhere and when to not waste my time. Nobody here is about to change their minds. You two can stop quoting me any time now. I won't reply anymore anyway.
    Dude you responded, without quoting me, to my post on here initially...so that's how this whole convo even started.

    And yes you seem to side with 'your guys' when push comes to shove...no shame in that really, human nature for most of us...I think we should keep it out of boxing but hard to do that sometimes.

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    • Boxing_1013
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      #82
      Originally posted by Nash out
      GGG-Canelo 1 my score 117-111 GGG (rematch 114-114)
      Wilder-Fury my score 115-111 Fury
      Holyfield-Lewis 1 my score 117-111 Lewis (rematch 115-113 Lewis)

      I had Kov beating Ward 114-113, but no robbery, Ward dominated the second half of the fight after Kov built up a big lead. Nash out.
      Man you have a low bar for domination...by compubox Ward outlanded him by 6 punches in those last 6 rounds...I probably would have had it about even if I really tallied up the punches...no KDs, no hurt moments...best round of the last 6 was Kov in the 10th.

      if the whole fight went the way of the first 6 rounds, 10-2 Kov would have been a very fair score.

      If the whole fight went the way of the last 6 rounds, 10-2 Ward would have been an embarrassment.

      Last 6 were 4-2 either way or more appropriately probably 3-3...first six was where the domination was.

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      • Tatabanya
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        #83
        James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
        George Foreman vs Axel Schulz.
        Nikolay Valuev vs Evander Holyfield.

        Robberies, all three.
        Last edited by Tatabanya; 02-08-2020, 02:00 PM.

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        • Nash out
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          #84
          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          Man you have a low bar for domination...by compubox Ward outlanded him by 6 punches in those last 6 rounds...I probably would have had it about even if I really tallied up the punches...no KDs, no hurt moments...best round of the last 6 was Kov in the 10th.

          if the whole fight went the way of the first 6 rounds, 10-2 Kov would have been a very fair score.

          If the whole fight went the way of the last 6 rounds, 10-2 Ward would have been an embarrassment.

          Last 6 were 4-2 either way or more appropriately probably 3-3...first six was where the domination was.
          I gave Kov 4-2 first 6, and Ward 4-2 second 6, though Kov won his rounds generally by a bigger margin. With Kov winning 114-113 on my card. I think I had it **** on to be honest with you. When I said dominating, I meant won the majority of the rounds.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Nash out
            I gave Kov 4-2 first 6, and Ward 4-2 second 6, though Kov won his rounds generally by a bigger margin. With Kov winning 114-113 on my card. I think I had it **** on to be honest with you. When I said dominating, I meant won the majority of the rounds.
            Yeah I just don't see a way to 7 rounds there for Ward...thus I call it a 'robbery'

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              #86
              Originally posted by Tatabanya
              James Toney vs Dave Tiberi.
              George Foreman vs Axel Schulz.
              Nikolay Valuev vs Evander Holyfield.

              Robberies, all three.
              Pretty sure Foreman-Schultz had a bribe in place as well. It had something to do with the IBF scandal I know that.

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                #87
                Fix: Kovalev Vs Canelo

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                  Yeah I just don't see a way to 7 rounds there for Ward...thus I call it a 'robbery'
                  Kovalev was at the peak of his powers then, but after the Ward controversial points loss, and then the second loss, which again was controversial, his confidence in himself inside the ring seemed to diminish.

                  I have a feeling that Kovalev won't be as highly rated historically as he should be, as if he had beaten Ward that night, as most people thought he did, he would have been regarded P4P Number 1 by many and with full justification after a win over a great fighter like Ward.

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                  • DuckAdonis
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                    #89
                    Kovalev Vs Ward was a robbery, all judges gave Ward round 10 when most thought Kovalev clearly won that round.
                    If all judges scored that round for Kovalev like they were supposed to, Kovalev would have won a UD

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Nash out
                      Kovalev was at the peak of his powers then, but after the Ward controversial points loss, and then the second loss, which again was controversial, his confidence in himself inside the ring seemed to diminish.

                      I have a feeling that Kovalev won't be as highly rated historically as he should be, as if he had beaten Ward that night, as most people thought he did, he would have been regarded P4P Number 1 by many and with full justification after a win over a great fighter like Ward.
                      Yeah those are the breaks sometimes...just how it goes...I think Kov could have comported himself better in the 2nd fight as well...but felt he was a bit unlucky in that one too, though not as much as fight 1...those 2 fights were always just going to be stacked against him.

                      He should have been up 5-2 or so imho in the 2nd fight before the stoppage, but 2 judges had it to Ward at that time as well...Kov just got set up unfortunately...and unlike GGG he didn't even really get paid for his troubles...that's the sad thing.

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