Why is there so much hate on NSB for GGG?

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  • Boxing_1013
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    #241
    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
    There is *nothing* particularly impressive about knocking over a string of TOMATO CANs. Nothing at all.

    Bumlovkin's best win to date is a once beaten Danny Jacobs FFS. Other than Jacobs, exactly WHO has Bumlovkin beaten?
    Oh gosh so everyone is a tomato can huh lol...I disagree man...imho a lot of those wins were very solid and it was a great stretch.

    Originally posted by ruedboy
    It's easy to trash any fighter's resume. Tell me a fighter you're a fan of and I'll be happy to demonstrate.
    yes great point

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      #242
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      Typical Bumlovkin nuthugger nonsense.

      Bumlovkin was ok with fighting Baby Chavez and Retired Froch @ 168 but - for some unknown reason - needed a 164lb catchweight for Ward?

      I wonder why.

      Lol...
      Yeah.

      I wonder why.

      Maybe it's because Ward sent that offer to GGG when GGG had already made a name for himself in 2015 and was already in talks to unify with David Lemieux. They literally sent it when negotiations were done. Funny timing huh?

      Who's the bigger star at that point? GGG with HBO backing.

      Maybe it was because Ward had already declined to fight GGG in 2013.

      Maybe it was because Ward couldnt even make the weight. What weight did Ward just fight at? 172. Oh that's right.

      Maybe GGG didnt care to fight Ward because GGG know Cotto/Canelo was around the corner and they offered a much bigger payday and legacy fight than Ward?

      Lmao and for someone to be complaining about catchweight you sure do you Canelo dont you?

      Only guy with weight clauses at

      155 "Canelo weight"
      160
      168
      175

      Lmfao. Rag on GGG for wanting overhype chavez at 168 but praise Canelo for catchweight if 164.

      Lmfao. I love the double talk. Too ****** to realize your criticisms leveled at GGG fit Canelo perfectly. You hate GGG for wanting a catchweight but love Canelo when he wants one. Too funny.

      Its literally like you losers claiming GGG ducked Andrade and Charlo when both of those guys never fought in the same division as GGG until 2016 when GGG went Jacob's, Canelo, Vanes. Canelo

      But give Canelo a pass for not fighting them when they were in the same division for YEARS.

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        #243
        Originally posted by Boxing_1013
        How did you score the 2 Canelo-GGG fights? Round by round/12 round score etc



        Great point on the bold.





        Right and Ward struggled imho to beat Barrera...he was in a dog fight and it was a close fight...and Barrera is a B class fighter.

        The 'who did he beat' angle is kind of weak as well imo...I mean we all saw him beat Canelo...honestly I don't see how anyone objective doesn't give GGG 2 wins in those fights...besides those fights, he has official wins over a prime Jacobs, Lemieux, Murray and Derevy...and also Brook...that's a really solid group.

        I've always said that I don't see how people overrate past great, shot, out of shape former greats...and then underrate prime, solid pros fighting at their best weights...that second group is often times a tougher fight than the first group...just because the name on the back of the jersey says Jordan, doesn't mean that it's Michael Jordan anymore, if you see what I'm saying.

        But yeah I think GGG has a great resume, even without getting an official result or two vs Canelo...you can't run through/dominate as many good fighters as he did without being the truth...Stevens or Lemieux would have dropped him...or Jacobs or Derevy or Canelo...one of those guys would have really beat him (only close fight GGG has had imho is vs Derevy...he won all the others 8-4 at least).

        He would have gone 12 with Brook, Monroe, Macklin, Proksa etc...the only 2 really 'bad' fights in GGG's career performance wise were vs Ouma and Derevy...and he definitely won one and I think he won vs SD as well...fair to say GGG didn't dominate Jacobs Canelo Canelo and SD as much as expected though...that is a fair argument.

        GGG may not have been this superhuman killer some thought him to be...but he was still a damn good boxer and fighter...and he proved that every time out so far...just a great fighter with a great career.



        Pavlik is a good win...it was at LHW though...we are talking who had the better MW career...I would say officially (so not including my 2 wins for GGG vs Nelo) Jacobs Murray SD and Lemieux are all about the same type of win for Bhop vs Pavlik...where Pavlik stands as a win vs those 5 fighters is debatable for sure though.
        115-113 canelo 1st fight
        116-112 canelo 2nd fight

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          #244
          Originally posted by Robi13
          115-113 canelo 1st fight
          116-112 canelo 2nd fight
          Thanks...do you remember the rounds at all, like which round you gave to which guy?

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            #245
            Originally posted by Boxing_1013
            Literally pulled out Vanes because he wanted to keep the original fight date...that Canelo had to sit out on, because he popped dirty for PEDs...lol.

            To all GGG haters etc...this is why y'all have no credibility...posts like this...someone come get your man
            He got stripped for fighting Vanes. But go ahead and ignore Andrade and Sergiy knocking at that door!

            Man you sure are full of sht and excuses...

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              #246
              Originally posted by Robi13
              115-113 canelo 1st fight
              116-112 canelo 2nd fight
              Just do what he does and look at compubox the dumb *** doesn’t score defense and body work so all that don’t count lol

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                #247
                Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                Thanks...do you remember the rounds at all, like which round you gave to which guy?
                First fight I believe I had

                1st round close to canelo
                2nd canelo
                3rd canelo
                4th close to ggg
                5th ggg
                6th ggg
                7th ggg
                8th close to canelo
                9th close to ggg
                10th canelo
                11th close to canelo
                12th canelo

                I forget exactly how I scored the second I just remember canelo taking early and mid rounds and ggg came on strong in the later round... I’ll re watch and send you my scores.

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by Boxing_1013
                  Thanks...do you remember the rounds at all, like which round you gave to which guy?
                  Man you gave GGG like alll the early rounds in the 2nd fight!!!!

                  I had some GGG fans watching the fight and they would of slapped you for that dumb sht scorecard! We was like damn GGG in trouble but he came on strong the later rounds.

                  Biatch just quit being a liar and post you gave ggg EVERY round and it wasn’t even close... Someone is going to KUTFO with your ****** crayon color scorecards. One of these days your going to say ****** sht at a bar or fight and get dropped!!!! Fools don’t play with their money! You show up saying they lost when they won.... Just record it.

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                    #249
                    Who cares..................

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                    • Robi13
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Just do what he does and look at compubox the dumb *** doesn’t score defense and body work so all that don’t count lol
                      Lol nah man I score it how I see it don’t use compubox ever

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