Comments Thread For: Groves Rips Youtube Fights: Horrific, Abysmal, Makes My Skin Crawl!

[Combat Talk Radio]

He's not wrong. It's horrible but entertaining. There might even be a possibility of seeing more knockouts in fights like these than with real fighters. However, safety is a concern, as these guys really don't know how to defend themselves

Logan did a respectable job defending KSI's caveman offense.

[Thraxox]

Wtf...Pure BS... Hearn can’t promote because he doesn’t make competitive matches. You tubers won’t outsell Fury vs Wilder. You tubers didn’t outsell Spence vs Porter. You tubers didn’t outsell Spence vs Garcia. You Tubers didn’t outsell Pac vs Thurman. You tubers didn’t outsell AJ vs Ruiz 2.

When the match is compelling there is no comparison. Hearn needs to up his game and make fights people want to see.

He can promote you tube matches and no one is stopping him. The point is stop calling it what it isn’t, professional boxing. Two guys driving their souped up Civics on a race track are not professional drivers. Stop with the nonsense already.

Golovkin vs Derev
AJ vs Ruiz 2
Povetkin vs Hunter
Chisora vs Whyte
Whyte vs Chisora 2
Wach vs Chisora
Parker vs Chisora
Parker vs AJ
Rungvisai vs Estrada 2
Prograis vs Taylor

I could go on and on.

[Fire4231]

At least they are fighting each other, they are not ducking, marinating, making excuses, other side of the streets etc. The same way MMA has been allowed to develop due to boxing incompetence is the same way these YouTubers are going to develop in around boxing. We can all sit here and hate it, but it doesn’t change the fact that they are going to develop quicker than we expect.

You have them calling each other out and the next minute they have their fights signed and sealed, in boxing those fights would take 3/4 years to make. How long have we asked for Khan/Brook now? Has Hearn been able to get both at the negotiating table? Nope, but I bet you KSI/Paul trilogy or v the younger brother would happen before that fight.

So again we can sit here and cry about it or actually put our foot down and start criticising instead of defending why real boxers don’t want to fight their rivals.

All Irrelevant bro, the point is it isn’t professional boxing. That’s the only point.

And Hearn is the only garbage promoter trying to keep himself alive with this BS.

Don’t care if it becomes the biggest thing in the universe just don’t call it professional boxing. You can’t give the most dangerous sport in the world an open door policy.

Put that kid who Paul just fought in there with a professional and it would have been a homicide.

Btw- They are currently outselling some Dazn boxing. They aren’t outselling PPV’s elsewhere. Stop handing over boxing to Hearn's ridiculous open door policy. Call this something else.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

I believe that whoever defends Youtube fights in any way, shape or form is an idiot. The only exception is for people who don’t realize how wrong they are yet.

Technically they are professional fights between famous YouTubers. Not YouTube fights.

Anyway, I have defended it, as have professional fighters like Shane Mosley, Shannon Briggs, Jeff Mayweather and BJ Flores. Have at it explaining why were idiots.......

[Fire4231]

Golovkin vs Derev
AJ vs Ruiz 2 (Competitive by accident, wasn’t this an upset?)
Povetkin vs Hunter (If this match was so compelling why was it an undercard fight? Was this the reasons we tuned in to Ruiz vs AJ 2? No maybe it was AJ getting upset to the heavens and knocked out? Would this have sold on its own? Hell no.
Chisora vs Whyte (Really is this PPV outside of the UK?)
Whyte vs Chisora 2 (Oh the imagination another inhouse repeat fight the world didn’t care about.
Wach vs Chisora (You are killing me, is this a fight between two world beaters? What is compelling about this?)
Parker vs Chisora (Do the brits just go crazy for Chisora? No one cared bro?)
Parker vs AJ (Compelling fight, although the match was boring.)
Rungvisai vs Estrada 2 (Compelling match thanks to HBO)
Prograis vs Taylor (Compelling match should have been bigger with better promotion.)

I could go on and on.

No I will go on for you brother... Here are some matches that would have sold globally if Hearn’s goofy @ss could make them...

Canelo vs GGG 3
GGG vs Andrade
Canelo vs Andrade
Jacobs bs Andrade
GGG vs Jacobs 2,3
AJ vs Whyte 2
AJ vs Ortiiz
Whyte vs Ortiz
Brook vs Kahn
AJ vs Wilder (1,2,3)
AJ vs Fury (1,2,3)
Whyte vs Fury
Whyte vs Breazeale
Brook vs Crawford
Garcia vs Taylor

Which list of fights would you rather see? Look at all this DAZN money on the table. This list is just off the top.

Had he made the deals at the right time and not been all up in the media babbling, Dazn would be doing just fine. Most of these are in-house. Do you think we wouldn’t have a Dazn subscription if we were even getting a quarter of these match ups when they were hot? Hearn sucks bro. He is a small time local promoter who never figured out how to be big. One billion jacked off into the wind. Every fighter at DAZN has a worst brand than they started with.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

All Irrelevant bro, the point is it isn’t professional boxing. That’s the only point.

And Hearn is the only garbage promoter trying to keep himself alive with this BS.

Don’t care if it becomes the biggest thing in the universe just don’t call it professional boxing. You can’t give the most dangerous sport in the world an open door policy.

Put that kid who Paul just fought in there with a professional and it would have been a homicide.

Btw- They are currently outselling some Dazn boxing. They aren’t outselling PPV’s elsewhere. Stop handing over boxing to Hearn's ridiculous open door policy. Call this something else.

All Irrelevant bro, the point is it isn’t professional boxing. That’s the only point.

They are professional boxing fights. Go to boxrec.com and see for yourself.

And Hearn is the only garbage promoter trying to keep himself alive with this BS.

So far he is. A promoter's job is to make money and these fights bring a huge audience. Therefore, other promoters will probably look to do these fights if they can.

Don’t care if it becomes the biggest thing in the universe just don’t call it professional boxing. You can’t give the most dangerous sport in the world an open door policy.

Anybody on this planet that can pass a medical can be a 'Professional Boxer'

Put that kid who Paul just fought in there with a professional and it would have been a homicide.

That was his first pro fight and had 1 am fight. He looked good all things considered. Besides a professional fighter is anybody with a license. He is good enough to beat a lot of bums, but obviously not the elite fighters.

Btw- They are currently outselling some Dazn boxing. They aren’t outselling PPV’s elsewhere. Stop handing over boxing to Hearn's ridiculous open door policy. Call this something else.

Incidentally, they are outselling a lot of fights on Showtime, ESPN. Charlo160 got 250k viewers in his last fight. They're definitely doing more than that on DAZN. Although by default most boxing PPV's probably do outsell there's. The original KSI-Logan Paul fight done between 1.2-1.4m buys. Although that was for $8-10.

[Thraxox]

No I will go on for you brother... Here are some matches that would have sold globally if Hearn’s goofy @ss could make them...

Canelo vs GGG 3
GGG vs Andrade
Canelo vs Andrade
Jacobs bs Andrade
GGG vs Jacobs 2,3
AJ vs Whyte 2
AJ vs Ortiiz
Whyte vs Ortiz
Brook vs Kahn
AJ vs Wilder (1,2,3)
AJ vs Fury (1,2,3)
Whyte vs Fury
Whyte vs Breazeale
Brook vs Crawford
Garcia vs Taylor

Which list of fights would you rather see? Look at all this DAZN money on the table. This list is just off the top.

Had he made the deals at the right time and not been all up in the media babbling, Dazn would be doing just fine. Most of these are in-house. Do you think we wouldn’t have a Dazn subscription if we were even getting a quarter of these match ups when they were hot? Hearn sucks bro. He is a small time local promoter who never figured out how to be big. One billion jacked off into the wind. Every fighter at DAZN has a worst brand than they started with.

info. I was searching the entire time on the web with DAZN's 2019 sched, none of it are coming out, so its the only thing that is on top of my head.

And yeah I get what you mean. Before DAZN Hearn wasn't putting up the level of fights that he had been giving in the past year due to money/risk involve, and now that he can throw away as much money as he could in a fight without the caution of his own money losing, there's no point in "matchmaking" except just throw the best fights out there possible.

[Fire4231]

Technically they are professional fights between famous YouTubers. Not YouTube fights.

Anyway, I have defended it, as have professional fighters like Shane Mosley, Shannon Briggs, Jeff Mayweather and BJ Flores. Have at it explaining why were idiots.......

How do you guys say you are following the sport of boxing? Rule number one you don’t create an open door policy for the worlds most dangerous sport. And if they are only fighting each other call it something else.

If not you create a more dangerous sport with an inability for quality control.

Should You tubers be able to play professional football? Professional Baseball, Hockey, Golf or Basketball? The NBA has a celebrity game but they don’t call them Profesdionals.

Should youtubers take part in the olympics because they are popular and would help ratings?

If they are professional boxers then they need to follow the same rules and the same ranking system. What happens when one of these popular average joes gets killed in the ring?

If we go your way we may never see another Roy Jones Jr. What happens when one of these bums gets popular and they let him fight you tubers over a real title?

Now you have to match this guy against guys even worst than him to keep him alive. This is ****ing dumb. Too many casuals in this sport.

Shane made money off of it of course he approves. Don’t know that the list of names you relayed actually approved but he is right, any one in boxing allowing this to be called professional boxing is an idiot.

[Fire4231]

All Irrelevant bro, the point is it isn’t professional boxing. That’s the only point.

They are professional boxing fights. Go to boxrec.com and see for yourself.

That’s the problem. So you avoid common sense logic because a internet site told you so? Man...you dudes are casuals. Are you tubers professional boxers and why? Do you know any other sport let alone one as dangerous as boxing that allows unproven to fight professionals? And if they aren’t fighting professionals what makes them qualified to share the same title?

And Hearn is the only garbage promoter trying to keep himself alive with this BS.

So far he is. A promoter's job is to make money and these fights bring a huge audience. Therefore, other promoters will probably look to do these fights if they can.

So why is DAZN failing? Why are GGG, Canelo, AJ all selling less than they did before signing to DAZN? I will wait...

Don’t care if it becomes the biggest thing in the universe just don’t call it professional boxing. You can’t give the most dangerous sport in the world an open door policy.

Anybody on this planet that can pass a medical can be a 'Professional Boxer'

Casual... so if you give great advise on taking care of yourself, let’s make you a surgeon. WTF? So do you feel the same way about other sports? Let’s put influencers in football. How about the Octagon is that okay? Casual!!!

Put that kid who Paul just fought in there with a professional and it would have been a homicide.

That was his first pro fight and had 1 am fight. He looked good all things considered. Besides a professional fighter is anybody with a license. He is good enough to beat a lot of bums, but obviously not the elite fighters.

Are you on hallucinogens? 90% of this site would have destroyed that kid. He looked like it was his first time getting punched in the face. Had no defense at all. Casual, Casual and more Casual.

Btw- They are currently outselling some Dazn boxing. They aren’t outselling PPV’s elsewhere. Stop handing over boxing to Hearn's ridiculous open door policy. Call this something else.

Incidentally, they are outselling a lot of fights on Showtime, ESPN. Charlo160 got 250k viewers in his last fight. They're definitely doing more than that on DAZN. Although by default most boxing PPV's probably do outsell there's. The original KSI-Logan Paul fight done between 1.2-1.4m buys. Although that was for $8-10.

So that’s the game we are playing? Let’s take the most popular YouTube fight period against guys fighting mandatories and non compelling matches on free TV. Do you realize how much a PPV is compared to a DAZN subscription? Do you realize what ring tickets cost for a professional PPV fight? No bro boxing is kicking You Tubes @ss compare the best verses the best. Besides who cares if it becomes the highest selling thing in the world, it doesn’t give it the right to take a real sports brand and identity. So Casual... sigh

[Bandman]

Wtf...Pure BS... Hearn can’t promote because he doesn’t make competitive matches. You tubers won’t outsell Fury vs Wilder. You tubers didn’t outsell Spence vs Porter. You tubers didn’t outsell Spence vs Garcia. You Tubers didn’t outsell Pac vs Thurman. You tubers didn’t outsell AJ vs Ruiz 2.

When the match is compelling there is no comparison. Hearn needs to up his game and make fights people want to see.

He can promote you tube matches and no one is stopping him. The point is stop calling it what it isn’t, professional boxing. Two guys driving their souped up Civics on a race track are not professional drivers. Stop with the nonsense already.

all the fights u mentioned were not on DAZN. except the AJ one. look at how many ppl left the building after the Jake Paul fight. nobody cared that Andrade and Keeler were "professional boxers". you said Hearn needs to up his game and make fights ppl want to see... THAT'S WHAT HE IS DOING lol. the people want to see youtubers fight. it is what it is.