Is it because Fury tricked you all into believing that he had mental health issues? The same mental health issues that just magically disappeared now? Mental health issues don't just go away like a cold. Is it because he made you all look at the drinking and drug use more than you look at him taking steroids? Is it because it doesn't fit you narrative? Also why are you all caught up on Whyte, who was cleared, using steroids but you NEVER EVER bring up Fury??? I'm just curious...
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Why does everyone forget that Ortiz and Fury were both caught using steroids???
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostIs it because Fury tricked you all into believing that he had mental health issues? The same mental health issues that just magically disappeared now? Mental health issues don't just go away like a cold. Is it because he made you all look at the drinking and drug use more than you look at him taking steroids? Is it because it doesn't fit you narrative? Also why are you all caught up on Whyte, who was cleared, using steroids but you NEVER EVER bring up Fury??? I'm just curious...
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He’s always talking about his mental health issues so... there’s that. But have people forgotten? There should be that fake PBC testing anyway.
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Giving Whyte benefit of the doubt on his second fail, is not exactly the same as being proven innocent on his second career drug fail.
as for Ortiz and Fury, yeah it's a problem that I don't think anyone is forgetting, anymore than folks have forgotten Povetkin's failures.
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I remember watching the Fury Klitschko fight and saying to my buddies that Fury looked the best I've ever seen. It made sense that later they found steroids in his system. Since then, his body has never looked even close to that night. And I always thought that the real reason he didn't rematch Klitschko was because he couldn't beat him without the juice.
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Originally posted by SplitSecond View PostHe’s always talking about his mental health issues so... there’s that. But have people forgotten? There should be that fake PBC testing anyway.
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostIs it because Fury tricked you all into believing that he had mental health issues? The same mental health issues that just magically disappeared now? Mental health issues don't just go away like a cold. Is it because he made you all look at the drinking and drug use more than you look at him taking steroids? Is it because it doesn't fit you narrative? Also why are you all caught up on Whyte, who was cleared, using steroids but you NEVER EVER bring up Fury??? I'm just curious...
As for me, I remember Fury’s positive doping test. I’ve never denied or discounted it. A lot of boxers have doped or are doping and sometimes they get caught. Very few have stayed clean their whole careers. It doesn’t make it right or anything but I guess I am a bit jaded and it doesn’t shock me.
As for Ortiz, he did fail a doping test but there was the issue of his hypertension medicines. But it still is suspicious; why didn’t he declare what he was taking? I’ve dealt with having to take those medicines and they can mess you up and make you feel different. It could go either way, maybe Those meds did mess with his test results but more likely there was some sort of doping going on.
Yes I also believe Fury has some mental health issues, frankly a lot of boxers seem to have some issues so to me it’s nothing new.
I may be unusual here but I honestly thought Whyte was cleared, and shown to have not taken anything? Maybe I’m wrong here. Either way I wouldn’t be surprised if he (or just about anyone for that matter) messed around with hormones or chemicals at some point in his career.
Most boxers these days have a funny looking body/muscle development compared to the old timers. That implies to me that they’re taking illegal PEDs or at least some legal/borderline supplements that they didn’t use in the old times.
Some of today’s boxers that I think look like old timers in body composition, weight distribution, muscle development; etc...
Lomachenko
GGG
Andrade
J. Parker
There are certainly more but those come to mind immediately. They have very old school bodies and don’t look unusually square or chiseled and they don’t have the funny patches of fat on their faces that PED’s sometimes causes. So, I don’t think those guys are doping.
As for doping, yes, Fury, Whyte, and Ortiz almost surely have at some point IMO if I just base it off of looks.
As for mental health issues, there’s probably some mild to moderate with Fury, and some mild issues with other guys as well.
Not sure what the point of this discussion was, as I didn’t think these things were up for dispute. But anyways I hope my answer helps.Last edited by Legends456; 02-04-2020, 01:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Tyistall View PostI remember watching the Fury Klitschko fight and saying to my buddies that Fury looked the best I've ever seen. It made sense that later they found steroids in his system. Since then, his body has never looked even close to that night. And I always thought that the real reason he didn't rematch Klitschko was because he couldn't beat him without the juice.
Something felt a bit off that whole fight. I always figured something was wrong with Wlad but it could have just been Fury being juiced to the grills.
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