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  • EnglishOxide
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    #31
    The rematch went exactly how the first fight should have gone.

    Deyonce is just disappointed that AJ isn't as overhyped as everyone makes out. He's arguably the most skilled guy in the division.

    People talk about Fury, but AJ wouldn't have struggled with Wallin like Fury did.

    Yes AJ has his vulnerabilities, but they were always there and getting dropped or hurt happens to every heavyweight who steps in with a ****er.

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    • Boxingfanatic75
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      #32
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
      The rematch went exactly how the first fight should have gone.

      Deyonce is just disappointed that AJ isn't as overhyped as everyone makes out. He's arguably the most skilled guy in the division.

      People talk about Fury, but AJ wouldn't have struggled with Wallin like Fury did.

      Yes AJ has his vulnerabilities, but they were always there and getting dropped or hurt happens to every heavyweight who steps in with a ****er.
      A ****er? Ruiz literally has 22 KOs in 33 fights. Just admit what the rest already know after witnessing the first fight; AJ truly has no chin. That’s ok. There have been many skilled heavyweights without a chin. However AJ skilled? He’s predictable and very robotic. Andy Ruiz, a skilled boxer without KO power literally busted AJ from pillar to post. AJ will lose to both Fury and to Wilder. Fury will outbox him and Wilder will KO him into the twilight zone. The man has no chin.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
        A ****er? Ruiz literally has 22 KOs in 33 fights. Just admit what the rest already know after witnessing the first fight; AJ truly has no chin. That’s ok. There have been many skilled heavyweights without a chin. However AJ skilled? He’s predictable and very robotic. Andy Ruiz, a skilled boxer without KO power literally busted AJ from pillar to post. AJ will lose to both Fury and to Wilder. Fury will outbox him and Wilder will KO him into the twilight zone. The man has no chin.
        Klitschko hit him clean and he got up. Klitschko is one of the hardest punchers ever. Whyte caught him too and Whyte has power. No chin though.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          Klitschko hit him clean and he got up. Klitschko is one of the hardest punchers ever. Whyte caught him too and Whyte has power. No chin though.
          Klitschko was also 41 years old, 5 years past his prime, had a 2 years layoff and was coming off a loss where he and Fury literally hugged the entire fight. Klitschko is also sloooowwwww

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
            Klitschko was also 41 years old, 5 years past his prime, had a 2 years layoff and was coming off a loss where he and Fury literally hugged the entire fight. Klitschko is also sloooowwwww
            How th **** is Klitschko slow? Power is the last thing to go. You're just showing how ****** you are. Keep following the sport though, one day you'll become knowledgeable.

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            • Zelda
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              #36
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide
              The rematch went exactly how the first fight should have gone.
              No!

              The first fight should have resulted in Joshua, who is 6'6", strong and muscular, way better shape, and world champion go out there and dominate the smaller and fat Andy Ruiz.

              Andy Ruiz is no top-level fighter and it showed in the rankings prior to the AJ fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Zelda
                No!

                The first fight should have resulted in Joshua, who is 6'6", strong and muscular, way better shape, and world champion go out there and dominate the smaller and fat Andy Ruiz.

                Andy Ruiz is no top-level fighter and it showed in the rankings prior to the AJ fight.
                Ruiz was dropped from the rankings when he had 1+ years out. Just like Fury.

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                • Zelda
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Ruiz was dropped from the rankings when he had 1+ years out. Just like Fury.
                  Doesn't that make it even worse then?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Zelda
                    Doesn't that make it even worse then?
                    How does that make it worse? He was a top 10 fighter that got removed from the rankings due to inactivity in 2017. Not because he wasn't good enough.

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                    • damned1974
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Zelda
                      I too blame Andy for not showing up in shape. But somewhere, it also comes down to his trainers and head coach also. Andy being in shape is one thing, but they were also lacking in game plan completely. Even an in-shape Andy (like in the first fight) would have lost to a moving Joshua.

                      Everyone talks about his fitness, but nobody talks about what the game plan was to fight a mobile Joshua? Its not like we saw a strategy where Andy's weight caused the problem....there simply was no plan for this type of fight. It seems they spent all their time practicing the same thing expecting the fight to be a repeat of what happened previously. Robles, it would appear, did not think such a thing could happen and had no alternate plan in place. Ruiz did not make any adjustments even during the match and just waited for AJ to tire so they could trade in the middle of the ring.

                      What was his camp advising him?
                      I partially agree with what you said-about a game plan. The problem is, they were prepared for AJ to be on his backfoot, but it doesn't sound like they actually worked on anything in a training camp.Ruiz stated in several interviews that this is how he anticipated AJ would fight in the rematch. Ruiz spent most of his time admiring his own win and being Mexico's 1st HW champion and decided that was good enough for him. He didn't even care what happened after that since he made his own history.

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