Comments Thread For: Davison Explains What Wilder Exploited in Fury in First Bout

[1hourRun]

Totally agree. I would love to see Wilder throw straight shots to Fury's chest and midsection. Wilder could really work Fury over with power jabs and straight rights to the belly.

Imagine a Wilder bodyshot KO... that would be epic

Wilder by Body-Shot KO would indeed be epic! 'Power-Jabs' had an impact in the first fight, Fury would just absorb them or try to block them, with his right arm -- Fury gave those points away as he did not respond, and perhaps has nothing in his arsenal to counter attacks to the body.

I remember in a recent interview that Wilder mentioned that working the body was apart of the game-plan in the first fight, however Deontay acknowledged that he deviated from it as the fight progressed.



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Deontay is not rattled by Tyson's nervous twitch like Wladimir Klitschko, thats just a stalling and distracting tactic. You can notice the faster you cut the ring on Tyson and step into range, the twitch becomes more frequent ; the twitch also aids his ( Tyson's) feints. Fury don't want a head-up fade, so he relies on his cunning.

Wilder had the right idea, high-guard-catch-and-shoot off Tyson's jab, but Fury also exploited this tactic/trap by Wilder, catching Deontay with combos around the gloves and through the guard and went to the body, this adjustment won Fury a couple rounds.

Round 10 is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, Wilder might of been tired, Deontay was lazy off the guard, not shooting the jab to halt Fury's momentum, returning fire with sluggish arm-punches as he tried to catch and shoot and was dangerously squared-up. Coaches Jay Deas and Mark Breland seriously need to review round 10 and address those mistakes before the rematch.

[davidw9785]

Wilder by Body-Shot KO would indeed be epic! 'Power-Jabs' had an impact in the first fight, Fury would just absorb them or try to block them, with his right arm -- Fury gave those points away as he did not respond, and perhaps has nothing in his arsenal to counter attacks to the body.

I remember in a recent interview that Wilder mentioned that working the body was apart of the game-plan in the first fight, however Deontay acknowledged that he deviated from it as the fight progressed.

I saw that interview too. I got excited to hear that they are focusing on training to go to the body. There is absolutely no good reason not to. There's no way Fury could take a consistent body attack. His hands would be coming down after 4 or 5 rounds.

And looking at your gif... he could establish the jab to the body for a couple rounds, and then, all of sudden, feint and turn that jab to the body into a hook upstairs. Lights out.

I'm loving these posts with gifs and all. Keep it up man

[Fire4231]

This is a case where awareness hurts more than it helps. Fury has to go 12 rounds knowing what it’s like to be concussed by a sledgehammer. Wilder gets an opportunity to become even more familiar with Fury’s movement.

I give Tyson props for just getting in the ring again. Outside of Ali, name one heavyweight boxer that can not be hit with a right hand for twelve rounds?

Speculators say Fury is probably going to sleep again. Will be a great fight between the two best HW boxers in the world.

[billeau2]

Davison was asked to stay on board. Fury wanted Sugar Hill as head coach for this fight but Davison was still meant to be part of the team. I think Fury and his family wanted a more strict camp
and thought he had been too distracted in the previous camps.

Ben is how training Billy Joe Saunders, so decides to work as head coach with Saunders instead and has been in training with him in Dubai.

It was Ben’s choice in the end. BJS may fight Canelo and Ben would be head trainer for that, where as BJS might’ve gone elsewhere if Ben was in USA with Fury playing second fiddle to sugar hill . So he made a choice for his own career.

So no drama. Ben and Fury are still friends and Fury said they still text and Fury give him a shoutout on Instagram last week.

Great Post. It seems to me that Davis is helping Fury with that advice and probably has spoken about it with him since the Wilder fight.

[Vistero]

The best Fight

[1hourRun]

I saw that interview too. I got excited to hear that they are focusing on training to go to the body. There is absolutely no good reason not to. There's no way Fury could take a consistent body attack. His hands would be coming down after 4 or 5 rounds.

And looking at your gif... he could establish the jab to the body for a couple rounds, and then, all of sudden, feint and turn that jab to the body into a hook upstairs. Lights out.

I'm loving these posts with gifs and all. Keep it up man

It seems that Wilder was applying a similar strategy as yours in the first meeting, with the difference of employing his signature destructive right-hand. However, the left that you mentioned David, was the final blow that put Tyson down in the 12th, so no doubt that Team Wilder must be working on the left-hook in this training camp.

Deontay Wilder would only profit defensively and offensively by targeting Fury's soft and often unguarded body. The jab (high or low) was key to Wilder's success against Tyson Fury, in the ninth round, Deontay shot the jab to the body when Fury was close by the ropes ; like you said, this would keep Fury's hands at bay and leave the head open for attack . As a result, Wilder scored the first knockdown.



Wilder actually injured coach Jay Deas with a body shot, caused a hernia. Despite being efficient with body attacks, Wilder relents from it, maybe hes right in doing so ; the right hand is so effective, it be foolish to not prioritize your best weapon.

Cant wait for the rematch, BOMBSQUAD!!!

[Legends456]

Davidson is a good coach but why the **** would he say this ?? What happens in the gym stays in the gym . From everything I've gathered ben chose to leave becuase he didnt want to share the corner with two coaches as opposed to the coach and the second . I dont really blame him to be honest . Fury should have brought sugar in as a second imho but iam loyal to a fault. There has to be more to this story or Davidson is gonna come off real salty and he doesnt really strike me as that type . You would think if he was gonna stay stuff like this and act a bit butt hurt that he would say what actually happened to cause all this with some details . Becuaee something is off here imo . It's obvious the wallin fight imo that caused the fall out , but why ?? He got cut . I thought ben did a good job in the corner I mean he was a little vague in the corner but that's what the fighters needs sometimes in those situations , just calm words and not talking about the cut TOO MUCH . I know tyson isnt the type but if you let your fighter get into their own head with a bad cut or injury the will sap alot of energy you cant work them up . I thought Davidson had surprisingly ( I had alot of doubts at the beginning of their relationship) done a very decent job with fury . And iam not gonna lie I have alot of doubts with sugarhill aswell . But tyson thinks it's the right fit and if he fights his usual style the trainer prolly doesnt really matter too much . I just dont wanna see tyson switch it up too much although he definately has to make adjustments , but they know this . Will be interesting to see it play out .

Great post.

Personally I think Ben Davison did a great job working with Tyson Fury, all things considered. I too was very surprised he parted with him at all, let alone right before the biggest fight of his career. I agree with you that there’s something more to this story we don’t know the details to.

As for Sugar Hill, he seems like a great guy and I respect his service as a policeman in a very challenging city (crime-wise).
With that said, people are giving him way to much respect regarding his skills as a boxing trainer, IMHO. There’s no guarantee that being close relative and spending some time learning with the guy will make him an equal trainer.

For example, Wilder’s brother, Marcelo, is also a boxer, and I imagine Wilder has probably given him some free training, advice and tips. It didn’t make Marcelo an equally good boxer, though.

[Legends456]

Y all really funny. Sad thing bout fury. He like a heavyweight version of mayweather with no knockout power... Wilder with his so-called limited skills. Will catch him sooner or later then it's lights out.

I like Fury, but I agree with you there. He could be elite if not ATG if only he had decent power. It really goes against him being a heavyweight with no power.

Wilder is much better off being a heavyweight with great punching power and relatively poor boxing skills. That said, he’s a better boxer than people give him credit for in that he has great sense of rhythm in the fight, distance control and timing. Otherwise he wouldn’t land the right hand so well. For example, Nikolai Valuev had comparable power to Wilder in terms of force, although it was more of a dense, clubbing type of power than Wilder’s sword thrust/whip motion type power. But Valuev had very poor timing, distance control and sense of rhythm. So it shows there’s more to it than just hitting like a train.

[Baba K]

Because of his height & reach, Fury saw the right hand coming and just leaned back away from it all night. He also consistently ducked under Wilder's left - he can see it. I think Wilder can catch him if he feints to disguise his punches, varies his punch speed, and stops throwing the same predictable combo over and over.

[LoadedWraps]

Ben Davison, the former head trainer of Tyson Fury, explained that his ex-student had a habit that WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder exploited in the first contest. Fury went down in the ninth and twelfth round. The contest, which took place in December 2018, ended in a controversial twelve round split draw at Staples Center in Los Angeles.
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All fighters have tendencies and habits, but what Davidson fails to mention is it sometimes is a type of feint or slight showboat, swagger if you will, it's at times intentional in that sense.

Fury does wipe the nose a lot, it's in my sig LOL.

I have a similar habit in the ring, I touch my left brow with my lead hand as if to wipe off sweat and I'll do it even if not sweating. I also have a similar habit but much more intentional where I'll go from a bounce, or really any stance I'm in into a low crouch at my lowest level and sit there briefly, waiting for my opponent to throw or do something. I'm set well and fast and slick enough to slip and roll in place but it's posturing, I'm hoping my opponent doesn't throw, and I can rest, but since I stepped into the lower level and (hopefully) forced my opponent to step back, I hope to give the impression of ring generalship to potential judges.