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  • Ray*
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    #31
    Originally posted by joseph5620
    When exactly was Wilder in any trouble or hurt? I must have missed that.
    Yeah you always miss anything to do with Wilder.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Yeah you always miss anything to do with Wilder.
      No I don't. But good job avoiding the question. If a fighter is legitimately hurt you know when, how, and what round. Like Wilder in the 7 in the first Ortiz fight.

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        #33
        Originally posted by joseph5620
        No I don't. But good job avoiding the question. If a fighter is legitimately hurt you know when, how, and what round. Like Wilder in the 7 in the first Ortiz fight.
        Hurt doesn’t = KD. Hurt can be you being tag, and holding on. And several times Wilder was hurt/stun especially in the 12th round. I just don’t like discussing Wilder with you and most of you guys, you act like we are crucifying him.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Hurt doesn’t = KD. Hurt can be you being tag, and holding on. And several times Wilder was hurt/stun especially in the 12th round. I just don’t like discussing Wilder with you and most of you guys, you act like we are crucifying him.
          I don't think you're crucifying him. I've just seen a lot of people say Wilder was hurt without specifying anything. But I see your point and you at least broke it down. That's more than I've seen anybody else do.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Vinnykin
            Fury knows how to protect a cut or a side of his face while fighting inside....... just watch the Wallin fight where he planted the cut on Wallin's chest and went to work.

            Fury knows what he is doing and can adapt when injured or cut.
            I hear you but do they let this fight continue if it opens ?? Iam not so sure of that this fight was on the line vs wallin.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Hurt doesn’t = KD. Hurt can be you being tag, and holding on. And several times Wilder was hurt/stun especially in the 12th round. I just don’t like discussing Wilder with you and most of you guys, you act like we are crucifying him.
              These guys are forgetting a guy named harold sconiers and some lost footage . Deontay was dropped and hurt in that fight . By a journeyman with a horrendous record ( altho still a tough guy , journeymen are the unsung heroes of our sport iam not digging atsconiers , I respect every fighter). All iam saying is he can be hurt and he will be hurt again iam just not positive fury is the guy to hurt and or drop or stop fury , but it is possible . Fury clearly buzzed this man in the 12th round . He can do it again and he is much more fit this time .
              Last edited by NORMNEALON; 02-02-2020, 05:02 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by NORMNEALON
                These guys are forgetting a guy named harold sconiers and some lost footage . Deontay was dropped and hurt in that fight . By a journeyman with a horrendous record ( altho still a tough guy , journeymen are the unsung heroes of our sport iam not digging atsconiers , I respect every fighter). All iam saying is he can be hurt and he will be hurt again iam just not positive fury is the guy to hurt and or drop or stop fury , but it is possible . Fury clearly buzzed this man in the 12th round . He can do it again and he is much more fit this time .
                Wilder has a very very good punch resistance, he recovers very very quick when hurt, maybe it’s because he fought 95% bums until recently, which meant his beard wasn’t shaken too much whilst he was learning his pro game. But every time that I have seen him hurt, he always recover pretty quick, admittedly Fury didn’t press Wilder whenever he stunned or hurt him IMHO.

                Another thing for me is, has Wilder actually fought a puncher before? I mean I don’t class Ortiz as a puncher, he hasn’t really proven it to me. And stopping Jennings doesn’t prove it IMHO. So maybe it’s because Wilder hasn’t really fought a puncher yet.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KillaMane26
                  I know he had success on the inside last fight but making this his whole gameplan i think will increase the chances of him getting caught.
                  Agree. Everytime they get close and get into a clinch, ref comes and separates them. Now from there Fury could stay on the outside where he fights tall with his head out of reach of Wilder's right hand.... or he can go back inside and he has to be at that transition point where he will be right at the perfect range for Wilder to land big.

                  Up to fury if he wants to put himself in Wilder's range over and over again.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Hurt doesn’t = KD. Hurt can be you being tag, and holding on. And several times Wilder was hurt/stun especially in the 12th round. I just don’t like discussing Wilder with you and most of you guys, you act like we are crucifying him.

                    ray - wilder was hurt
                    boxing scene - when was he hurt, I didnt see that
                    ray - I dont want to discuss it


                    just lol. amazing argument

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by el***
                      ray - wilder was hurt
                      boxing scene - when was he hurt, I didnt see that
                      ray - I dont want to discuss it


                      just lol. amazing argument
                      Have you seen David Reid recently?

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