I just want to see how people feel about these comments

[Boxing_1013]

One is a FOR sure HOFaner while the other one is only getting in buying tickets like the fans do.

I doubt the writer of this page even has a clue which one that will be...

Well everyone saw the one of them beat your idol twice...so you better hope GGG is getting in

If he was from Mexico or the USA he would probably be viewed as top 10 all-time pfp lol...if he was from Mexico you would revere him like you do Canelo.

Btw - you scored the first fight 7-5 for GGG...so if he isn't getting in what should happen to Canelo? lol

[Shadoww702]

Not the biggest Ward fan, he's a but of a weirdo, reckon he has some dodgy fetishes, but he tested himself and beat the best in his division.

Golovkin couldn't get the job done against the smaller canelo, considering the unstoppable beast he was hyped as, he never really lived up to it. Goes down as a bit of a can crusher.

Ward on the other hand moved up a division and ended the myth of Kovalev, is the only person to convincingly beat Froch, has a good win over a prime Kessler, these names are all well above anyone GGG beat.

Basically Ward>Golovkin and it's not really debatable.

Yup! One moved up to fight the best while the other guy acted like a 5th year senior waiting for the kids that just passed 8th grade to start freshman year to fight.

I mean GGG was waiting on Canelo and Cotto to move up. When Canelo finally did ggg myth got BUSTED!

[Shadoww702]

Well everyone saw the one of them beat your idol twice...so you better hope GGG is getting in

If he was from Mexico or the USA he would probably be viewed as top 10 all-time pfp lol...if he was from Mexico you would revere him like you do Canelo.

Btw - you scored the first fight 7-5 for GGG...so if he isn't getting in what should happen to Canelo? lol

****** @ss I collected MY betting slip at the casino when Canelo beat ggg. Did you????

Didn’t even have to lie like you do and no one even blinked an eye PAYING me!!!

Dude you suk! Fkn troll

[Boxing_1013]

I think it's probably better phrased that Ward just wasn't interested rather than that he 'didn't want it'. He had other stuff on his plate and the Golovkin fight just wasn't compelling at that time.

What we can do - at least IMO - is dispell the myth, or narrative, that GGG was steered away from good fights throughout his US career. We can look at opponents that GGG tried to fight or agreed to fight or but fell through for whatever reason, Piog, Lee, Froch, Ward, and hopefully put that to bed, although I'm quite sure the more cynical minded will claim that despite appearing to agree to said fights he may not have followed through with 'em. That's not to say that he would have won or beaten these opponents, merely that he was willing to fight 'em.

The narrative that seems to have been developed in some quarters is that Golovkin's less than stellar resume is evidence that he's not very good, or at least not as good as sold. Working back from his failure to land top level opponents earlier in his career comes the leap of illogic that it follows that he or his handlers didn't try to land such opponents, and from there another tenuous leap that it therefore follows they didn't try to land such opponents cos they knew he wasn't very good and might come unstuck. Voila. 'Proof' that GGGs resume means he was never really that good!

Hopefully evidence of the fights he did try to make - or made and fell through - should put that to bed, but of course, it won't. I mean, sure, who knows... maybe he would have lost against Pirog or Froch, we just don't know, but the idea that he avoided tough fights because he thought he might lose is simply not supported by evidence, and in fact requires far more assumptions than simply taking the face value evidence (occams razor).

Thanks good post man...all I would say is that I don't think GGG has a bad resume at all...I think it's really strong, and a lot of that good work was done even before the recent string of tough fights, starting with Jacobs.

I have always and will continue to be impressed with any pro fighter who runs through other good fighters, in their primes, around his weight class...GGG did a lot of that and never really had close to a hiccup...that is just really impressive to me.

More impressive (or at least just as impressive) imo than beating a past great, shot, great fighter, fighting above his best weight, for example...sometimes we overrate the name on the back of the jersey I guess.

Running through a dozen or so really good fighters, all relatively in their primes, all different types of styles etc, is just really impressive to me...I would say that for anyone, not just GGG.

[Shadoww702]

Well everyone saw the one of them beat your idol twice...so you better hope GGG is getting in

If he was from Mexico or the USA he would probably be viewed as top 10 all-time pfp lol...if he was from Mexico you would revere him like you do Canelo.

Btw - you scored the first fight 7-5 for GGG...so if he isn't getting in what should happen to Canelo? lol

I hope one of these days someone smashes your head in when you don’t pay them when you lose! Showing up with your scorecard filled out in crayon really will get you @ss kicked. And then saying you FELT so and so won won’t save you.

[DaNeutral.]

Ahh this is ancient history now. I always got the impression neither really made a real effort to make that fight. Both seemed focused on their own thing but both felt obliged to talk like they wanted it. Shame it never happened but it was never a must like a Floyd v Manny or a Lewis v Tyson. I think Ward would of won that fight had it happened. I wasnt a fan of his style but had to admire it. I think hed of bettered Golovkin.

[Boxing_1013]

Yup! One moved up to fight the best while the other guy acted like a 5th year senior waiting for the kids that just passed 8th grade to start freshman year to fight.

I mean GGG was waiting on Canelo and Cotto to move up. When Canelo finally did ggg myth got BUSTED!

****** @ss I collected MY betting slip at the casino when Canelo beat ggg. Did you????

Didn’t even have to lie like you do and no one even blinked an eye PAYING me!!!

Dude you suk! Fkn troll

Dude you literally said GGG beat Canelo in the first fight...how is that myth busting...and even if it was, he would still be better than Canelo, in your own opinion? lol

[Boxing_1013]

I hope one of these days someone smashes your head in when you don’t pay them when you lose! Showing up with your scorecard filled out in crayon really will get you @ss kicked. And then saying you FELT so and so won won’t save you.

I'm not a degenerate gambler like that man...why do you always sound drunk...it's 12 pm on Saturday man

[Shadoww702]

This jack@ss thinks Canelo making the HOFame is because of GGG??? Canelo still only 29 and has plenty fights left.

I have never seen a dumber person act like they know about boxing then her...The Bi@tch don’t bet money because she would be BROKE or worse from all the times she picked the wrong boxer to win

[Shadoww702]

Dude you literally said GGG beat Canelo in the first fight...how is that myth busting...and even if it was, he would still be better than Canelo, in your own opinion? lol

And also said one round I gave was more of a coin toss so could see a draw. Unlike YOU I never said either one blew each other out.

You dumb ass gave ggg every close round. And that’s a FACT

And your 9-3 scorecard showed everyone you don’t know sht about scoring fights. You like a chick with her FEELINGS. Just admit your p@ssy gets soft everytime GGG fights.