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  • famicommander
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    She has been able to be successful in numerous weight classes. Certainly more than Braekhus.
    So?

    She's fighting nobodies. Doesn't matter how many weight classes you beat a bum in.

    Braekhus is beating ladies that have won belts between 135 and 160 every single fight.

    The difference is, Braekhus is on a 25 fight title defense streak and has no reason to change weight classes. If someone wants to prove they're the best, they have to meet her in her weight class to beat her.

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      #12
      Originally posted by famicommander
      So?

      She's fighting nobodies. Doesn't matter how many weight classes you beat a bum in.

      Braekhus is beating ladies that have won belts between 135 and 160 every single fight.

      The difference is, Braekhus is on a 25 fight title defense streak and has no reason to change weight classes. If someone wants to prove they're the best, they have to meet her in her weight class to beat her.
      If we are talking P4P then the number of weight classes successfully competed in absolutely matters.

      The level of competition in women's boxing as a whole is abysmal. No need to single out Serrano for that while giving Braekhus a pass.

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      • _Rexy_
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        #13
        After Taylor finally takes that much deserved L, she should rematch Persoon and McCaskill.

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        • famicommander
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          #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          If we are talking P4P then the number of weight classes successfully competed in absolutely matters.

          The level of competition in women's boxing as a whole is abysmal. No need to single out Serrano for that while giving Braekhus a pass.
          Braekhus has fought 3X as many quality opponents as Serrano in fewer fights.

          How is this remotely difficult to comprehend?

          Braekhus is dragging champs up or down to 147 to fight them, Serrano is fighting bums for the belts that Braekhus' opponents vacate, then vacating them herself.

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          • BlackR0bbb
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            #15
            Katie Hype Job

            Taylor lost to Persoon, which explains why she's in no rush to get smashed by Serrano or rematch Delphine. Eddie knows this, which is why he's stalling.

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              #16
              Originally posted by famicommander
              Braekhus has fought 3X as many quality opponents as Serrano in fewer fights.

              How is this remotely difficult to comprehend?

              Braekhus is dragging champs up or down to 147 to fight them, Serrano is fighting bums for the belts that Braekhus' opponents vacate, then vacating them herself.
              Even if your 3X was true, quality of opponents is only one factor in P4P. Technical skill and the ability to be a badass regardless of weight is also a factor.

              Serrano compares favorably to Braekhus in that area.

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              • famicommander
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                #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Even if your 3X was true, quality of opponents is only one factor in P4P. Technical skill and the ability to be a badass regardless of weight is also a factor.

                Serrano compares favorably to Braekhus in that area.
                Technical skill? Is that a joke?




                Braekhus is the most skilled fighter in the history of women's boxing, point blank.

                The ability to be a badass?

                You mean like how Cecilia chased Holly Holm clean out of the sport?

                Or how she thoroughly dominated Anne Sophie Mathis, arguably the biggest female P4P puncher ever, twice?

                Sorry, but Serrano's resume is several orders of magnitude worse. It's not even remotely comparable.

                Cecilia has almost as many wins against likely HOFers (Mathis twice, Farias, St John, Lamare, Hallbeck) as Serrano has against middle of the road belt holders.

                EDIT:

                In her 36 fights, Braekhus has won on every SCORECARD by at least 2 points. She was won every scorecard except ONE by at least three rounds. In her whole career.
                Last edited by famicommander; 01-31-2020, 04:46 PM.

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                • djbiancafrost
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                  #18
                  Taylor will be smashed hard by Serrano but the media will still make her a FOTY at the end of the year.

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #19
                    ... why did I simply assume that Taylor-Serrano would just happen at 135lbs (Taylor has all the belts at 135lbs, Serrano is basically a 126lb fighter who is willing to go up all the way to 140lbs) ?

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                    • Oldskoolg
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                      #20
                      No it isn’t, Serrano will brutalise Taylor and ruin another Eddie Hearn fighter forever

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