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  • NORMNEALON
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    #71
    Originally posted by Cobra Curry
    I agree both guys need action which is why I think they ought to fight each other.
    Andrade making offers to GGG/Canelo would be like Berto making an offer to Floyd; those guys choose you, not the other way around.
    As well as offering to fight Charlo on his own network, he also signed to fight Saunders so I think it's fair to say Andrade is at least trying to "earn" it.
    Charlo on the other has apparently refused not only Andrade but also Canelo himself.
    For my money, the brains trust have placed more value on having an interim belt on Fox/Showtime than getting the fights which truly matter for Charlo.
    I hear u there bro. Andrade has made the effort to have those fights and had hard luck . But andrade should be calling out the guys on his network as it doesnt seem charlo and them want it . His network should be pushing for other fights to get made that are available . Charlo def has a better resume than Andrade at this point , but not at middleweight . They both fight scrubs . These guys need to fight each other these guys talking about eubank jr as a legit threat or high ranked guy is laughable . I even read someone post that eubank destroyed korobov although I think it was sarcasm ( I hope it was ...it better be because this guy seems like a logical poster and if it is I concur 110 ) . If charlo wont fight Andrade he should rematch korobov instead of trying to fight eubank to indirectly try and avenge his poor performance against matt ....that wont work with the real fans , maybe with some of the fanboys in this thread. But I agree charlo and Andrade need to fight and they need to fight now. Someone needs to put their foot down and send a signed contract to the other with no bull**** in it ....1fight no options . It's pretty simple and if team Andrade did offer what is being said in the form of a contract then charlo is ducking flat out ... again what the fuuk happened to fighters who dont care about loses and fought everyone . What the hell happened to the Marvin hagler of the world . This whole political business **** is ruining the sport ....win a big fight the money follows ,take a risk and gamble on yourself guys , dare to be great becuase this is straight up making some fighters look like they dont want to fight and it's sad becuase they are all good fighters , who would make decent scraps and BOATLOADS OF MONEY. What is the damn hold up this **** is getting old . I agree 110 they need to fight these two right now......in the words of charles Barkley and right guard : anything less would be uncivilized . These guys are being protected alot of them until I see the fights get made 100% no doubt . They are getting paid to sit on the shelf and its ****ed that any real fans would defend this **** . Oh Charlos betting on himself!! No hes not ,if he was he would take the legacy fights with confidence no matter what his handlers say and make himself who he wants to be , not wait around for it to happen while makable fights for huge money are in their face. Those arent fighters ,those are puppets and unfortunately that's exactly what some of these guys are . Glad we are on the same page bro becuase this fight needs to happen now or these guys can **** off with their bull**** mandatories and ranked opponents . Like who pays the sanctioning bodies to allow this bull**** to go on ,like govern your top 10 and make your fuuking fighters earn their rankings . The wbo rankings are god awful I dont know what eddie is paying the wbo to allow this **** to happen , same goes for charlo . Wtf are they waiting for


    Other than blaming these guys maybe canelo needs the finger pointed at him aswell becuase all these fools are waiting around for him. Force the fight , beat everyone else . Make canelo fight you , dont sit around for him to come calling ,if it happens great, if not forge your own legacy it will most definitely give them a better chance at the canelo lottery than fighting scrubs and jr middleweights . U have a belt , defend it against worthy challenges
    Last edited by NORMNEALON; 02-02-2020, 04:48 AM.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #72
      Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
      That was due to DiBella setting up the DAZN meeting where they offered to overpay Wilder, which lead to Haymon having to overpay Wilder.


      So Wilder was making that much money in spite of Haymon not because of him.
      Wilder-Fury generated at least $25m on US PPV, with at least another £8m ($11.2m) generated on UK PPV, and then you've got the gate in Los Angeles, and everything else that brought in money.

      Split it however you want to split it, let's not act like Wilder wasn't about to be on the money already, lol.

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        #73
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        I thought he was his own boss?

        How many professional fighters do you know who turn down $7 million for one fight?
        First of all, it's not one fight. From the email itself to what Hearn has openly talked up, the offer was set as the first of a multi-fight deal, with the most light option being a 1-and-1 deal, where DAZN has the exclusive right to match any offer for Charlo on the fight after.

        Secondly, it's been said nowhere that the offer to Charlo was for $7m, and Hearn still trying to hide the number now makes it obvious that the offer wasn't for $7m.

        The Mikey deal isn't a long-term business plan; trying to flip the Mikey option into a 1-and-1 with the next fighter, before flipping that fighter's option into a 1-and-1 with another fighter after that isn't too difficult to see

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          #74
          Originally posted by NORMNEALON
          I hear u there bro. Andrade has made the effort to have those fights and had hard luck . But andrade should be calling out the guys on his network as it doesnt seem charlo and them want it . His network should be pushing for other fights to get made that are available . Charlo def has a better resume than Andrade at this point , but not at middleweight . They both fight scrubs . These guys need to fight each other these guys talking about eubank jr as a legit threat or high ranked guy is laughable . I even read someone post that eubank destroyed korobov although I think it was sarcasm ( I hope it was ...it better be because this guy seems like a logical poster and if it is I concur 110 ) . If charlo wont fight Andrade he should rematch korobov instead of trying to fight eubank to indirectly try and avenge his poor performance against matt ....that wont work with the real fans , maybe with some of the fanboys in this thread. But I agree charlo and Andrade need to fight and they need to fight now. Someone needs to put their foot down and send a signed contract to the other with no bull**** in it ....1fight no options . It's pretty simple and if team Andrade did offer what is being said in the form of a contract then charlo is ducking flat out ... again what the fuuk happened to fighters who dont care about loses and fought everyone . What the hell happened to the Marvin hagler of the world . This whole political business **** is ruining the sport ....win a big fight the money follows ,take a risk and gamble on yourself guys , dare to be great becuase this is straight up making some fighters look like they dont want to fight and it's sad becuase they are all good fighters , who would make decent scraps and BOATLOADS OF MONEY. What is the damn hold up this **** is getting old . I agree 110 they need to fight these two right now......in the words of charles Barkley and right guard : anything less would be uncivilized . These guys are being protected alot of them until I see the fights get made 100% no doubt . They are getting paid to sit on the shelf and its ****ed that any real fans would defend this **** . Oh Charlos betting on himself!! No hes not ,if he was he would take the legacy fights with confidence no matter what his handlers say and make himself who he wants to be , not wait around for it to happen while makable fights for huge money are in their face. Those arent fighters ,those are puppets and unfortunately that's exactly what some of these guys are . Glad we are on the same page bro becuase this fight needs to happen now or these guys can **** off with their bull**** mandatories and ranked opponents . Like who pays the sanctioning bodies to allow this bull**** to go on ,like govern your top 10 and make your fuuking fighters earn their rankings . The wbo rankings are god awful I dont know what eddie is paying the wbo to allow this **** to happen , same goes for charlo . Wtf are they waiting for


          Other than blaming these guys maybe canelo needs the finger pointed at him aswell becuase all these fools are waiting around for him. Force the fight , beat everyone else . Make canelo fight you , dont sit around for him to come calling ,if it happens great, if not forge your own legacy it will most definitely give them a better chance at the canelo lottery than fighting scrubs and jr middleweights . U have a belt , defend it against worthy challenges
          Lots of truth here man.

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          • Scipio2009
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            #75
            Originally posted by _Maxi
            Golovkin and Canelo have fought several top5 MW's. Charlo has fought none.
            Do not conflate Canelo's resume with Golovkin's piss poor run.

            Golovkin has Jacobs, SD, Canelo twice, and Kell Brook coming up from 147lbs

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            • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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              #76
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Wilder-Fury generated at least $25m on US PPV, with at least another £8m ($11.2m) generated on UK PPV, and then you've got the gate in Los Angeles, and everything else that brought in money.

              Split it however you want to split it, let's not act like Wilder wasn't about to be on the money already, lol.
              Paying 20m for Wilder to fight Breazeale is the definition of over paying.

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                #77
                Originally posted by daggum
                eubank just destroyed korobov who most people had beating charlo so if charlo fights eubank that will be an epic encounter. does he have the mental and physical fortitude to do it? im not sure but if he gets in there with eubank and somehow wins...we may have our next fighter of the decade
                You didn't watch the fight, lol.

                Makes sense now

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
                  Paying 20m for Wilder to fight Breazeale is the definition of over paying.
                  We don't know what Wilder's pay was, but Showtime having the new deal, and seemingly budgeting 2-3 date payouts for the one show likely helped things hurt less, lol

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                  • DaNeutral.
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009
                    Wilder-Fury generated at least $25m on US PPV, with at least another £8m ($11.2m) generated on UK PPV, and then you've got the gate in Los Angeles, and everything else that brought in money.

                    Split it however you want to split it, let's not act like Wilder wasn't about to be on the money already, lol.
                    You pulled them numbers straight out of your ass? Cuz they stink. And they are a long way from the truth. Why you PBC fans always gotta start a narrative with a lie? Ignore that i already know why. Cuz the truth would prove you wrong.

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                    • _Maxi
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Do not conflate Canelo's resume with Golovkin's piss poor run.

                      Golovkin has Jacobs, SD, Canelo twice, and Kell Brook coming up from 147lbs
                      Golovkin, Canelo and Jacobs have the best MW resumees. If you want to name late replacement Brook, let's also name voluntary defense Khan.

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