Mayweather Lands Clean Punches

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I'm watching boxing at the moment and trying to figure out why it seems these guys can't land clean punches. It makes me realize why a guy like Floyd went undefeated. As a viewer or judge you didn't have to guess if Floyd landed a punch or not, his shots where always clean, sharp, and precise. Even if he didn't throw a lot of punches in a round when they landed it was clear and obvious.

If you consider a fighter like Shawn Porter he is always in close debatable fights and in my opinion it's largely because he hardly throws or land clean punches. It's always sloppy, messy, and laborious. I'd love to see fighters and pundits who comment on Floyd not just study his defense but the way he threw and landed clean punches and combinations.

I believe it is easy for judges to score fights in Floyd's favor, his punching technique is masterful, he makes it clear that his punches are scoring blows, why do so many fighters seem to lack this skill?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

"Boxing styles"

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"Boxing styles"

Shouldn't part of your style be to land clean punches? Seems it could only help

[daggum]

cept against pac

maybe the judges were on cruise control and thought he was landing clean punches when it was pac with all the clean work. oh well. not important.

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Well he gave a good explanation to his style back in the day.

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Sorry can't embed worth a damn. But when it comes to his offense (not counterpunching) he's basically saying that he never throws a punch if he thinks his opponent is ready for it, he tries to catch you not ready, he uses his feints and variety of long distance punches very well so that you don't see it coming and his reflexes and thought process were extremely quick, that the time between him seeing the opportunity and landing the shot is too short for his opponent to react.

Also after boxing so long (if you're a true student of the game and not a converted football player) You can anticipate your opponent's next move and where his body and head are going to be in the next second so you can fire the shot even before the opening and still land. These qualities were the foundation to his style offensively and also defensively.

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Most fighters train for combos because the amateurs encourage that with their scoring system and short fights. Some fighters adjust in the pros and work on setting up shots, feints, timing and anticipation and these are the ones who make it far in he pros and some stay stuck in that flury shoeshine stuff from the Amateurs and ever become as good pros as they were Amateurs.

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Most fighters train for combos because the amateurs encourage that with their scoring system and short fights. Some fighters adjust in the pros and work on setting up shots, feints, timing and anticipation and these are the ones who make it far in he pros and some stay stuck in that flury shoeshine stuff from the Amateurs and ever become as good pros as they were Amateurs.

Flurries and shoeshines, you got a point there, that's like a lot of misdirection meant to leave the impression of effectiveness. I can see why in a 3 round amateur fight that would be a good strategy but in the pros it's just wasted movement and activity to me. Might fool some judges though.

I've never seen Floyd throw ineffective flurries and shoeshines, funny thing is that could be a reason his critics called him boring. They like to see ineffective punches in bunches!

[Citizen Koba]

I'm watching boxing at the moment and trying to figure out why it seems these guys can't land clean punches. It makes me realize why a guy like Floyd went undefeated. As a viewer or judge you didn't have to guess if Floyd landed a punch or not, his shots where always clean, sharp, and precise. Even if he didn't throw a lot of punches in a round when they landed it was clear and obvious.

If you consider a fighter like Shawn Porter he is always in close debatable fights and in my opinion it's largely because he hardly throws or land clean punches. It's always sloppy, messy, and laborious. I'd love to see fighters and pundits who comment on Floyd not just study his defense but the way he threw and landed clean punches and combinations.

I believe it is easy for judges to score fights in Floyd's favor, his punching technique is masterful, he makes it clear that his punches are scoring blows, why do so many fighters seem to lack this skill?

They weren't all clean punches - as with all top fighters, the highlight videos tend to give the impression that the seperation was greater than it really was - but yes, part of Floyd's style was to throw less but pick his punches very well. Efficient clear work. There's been few better at it and there's no doubt Floyd was a master of his craft. It's one way to win fights but the not the only way.

Part of the beauty of boxing is the multitude of different ways fighters find to win based upon their natural talents and abilities, pre-dispositions and training. We can study Floyd or we can study Pac or Roy or Loma or any other elite fighter and be in awe, but in the end what they do ain't replicable because each fighters combination of skills, flair and natural gifts is unique.

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They weren't all clean punches - as with all top fighters, the highlight videos tend to give the impression that the seperation was greater than it really was - but yes, part of Floyd's style was to throw less but pick his punches very well. Efficient clear work. There's been few better at it and there's no doubt Floyd was a master of his craft. It's one way to win fights but the not the only way.

Part of the beauty of boxing is the multitude of different ways fighters find to win based upon their natural talents and abilities, pre-dispositions and training. We can study Floyd or we can study Pac or Roy or Loma or any other elite fighter and be in awe, but in the end what they do ain't replicatable because each fighters combination of skills, flair and natural gidfts is unique.

Watching Loma is nice, would be nicer if he fought better competition but I'd prefer an influx of sharper punchers in the sport. To me that's what makes the P4P types stand out, these days P4P is rarely mentioned, no fighter is separating themselves from the pack.

[Citizen Koba]

Most fighters train for combos because the amateurs encourage that with their scoring system and short fights. Some fighters adjust in the pros and work on setting up shots, feints, timing and anticipation and these are the ones who make it far in he pros and some stay stuck in that flury shoeshine stuff from the Amateurs and ever become as good pros as they were Amateurs.

Amateurs use 10 point must these days, man. Have done since '13 I think. The point still stands for the current crop as most of 'em were trained and had all or most of their ammy careers under the old system, but it'll be interesting to see if the styles have changed any with the new guys coming through.

That said I'm not sure how much I agree anyways, I'm trying to think which of the top ammys have been shoeshiners? There's maybe Shakur right now, but when I'm thinking of the EEs and Cubans whilst they vary in style I'm thinking mainly of sharpshooters and heavy handed pressure guys or something in between.

Which guys were you thinking of in particular or were you thinking maybe more historically?