Should Joshua force the Wilder fight?

[Zelda]

He cant force a fight with a guy who clearly doesnt want to fight. Whyte has been mandatory for a ****** amount of time but still hasnt had a shot.

Whyte became mandatory ONLY AFTER fighting Rivas. He was then suspended due to testing positive for PEDs and only regained his mandatory status in December.

1 month is not a "****** amount of time".

[N/A]

Why would it make the most money on PPV in the states?

Because in the states, it can be a $90 or $100 PPV.

If it's an undisputed fight, it would do at least one million buys. Possibly two million. Although I personally think it'd do around 1.5 million.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ok I’ll try break this down for you because clearly you don’t understand how this works globally. Money is generated outside of us too. Numbers obviously are simplified here. I’ve ignored other territories but European time is likely to gain higher income than American time due to the audience who watch Joshua elsewhere globally.

Option 1 - US PPV

US sales (assume 1 mil ppv @ $80 which is ambitious) = $80m
Vegas site fee = $20m
UK ppv (1 mil @ £20 = $26) = $26m

Total = $126m

Saudi fight
US ppv/dazn fee = $10m
Saudi site fee = $150m
UK ppv (2 mil x £25 = $32) = $64m

Total = $224m

There are clearly many factors and these are very much estimates but it’s just to show you the idea of how/why fighting outside of the US could prove more profitably, particularly if a place like saudi will offer a huge sum to host the fight

None of those numbers are factual or are based off any credible source.

You absolute tool...😂😂😂

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[Richard]

I say why not ?? Force the fight . Someones gotta make a move asap

Yes I would love to see the winner of the Fury/Wilder fight face Joshua .

Interesting to hear that in the past Joshuas camp offered Wilder a 60/40 split in favour of Joshua which isnt bad considering Wilders resume isnt that of Joshuas.Makes Wilder look the one that is being a bit greedy:

We have to try and make that happen,” Hearn told Sky.

“Right now, the fight that Anthony Joshua wants is the winner of Wilder and Fury.

“We’ve been there before, both guys have turned down 60/40 for that fight and now we have no other option, but to offer them 50/50 because the fight will never happen.

“Subject to the boss [AJ] giving the thumbs up, which I think he knows that’s the way to make this fight.”

From: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/6...-saudi-arabia/

[hugh grant]

Josh can fighters fury x2 used goods. Give wilder 30%, as he lost x2 to fury.
Didn't mean to sound too confident but I'm sure fury beats wilder again

[Richard]

Eddie admitted he and Joshua had an ego problem back then. Now, he is willing to give 50-50. The only other problem, in my opinion, will be network issues...will Eddie insist on DAZN or take it to PPV? If it is PPV on joint networks, it will be easier to get it done. By December or early next year, both Wilder/Fury and Joshua would have got over their contractual obligations (hopefully).

Could be the Andy Ruiz loss was a blessing in disguise for boxing fans.At least that loss possibly humbled Joshua depending on the degree to how bad he had a supposed illness?

[Richard]

Wilder has 2 PPVS and an easy knockout vs Kownacki lined up already. I'm also assuming they will feed Ruiz to his for his Mexican support. Wilder is about generational money, not undisputed. He'll collect all the money he can before he has to give that belt up to Joshua.

If thats true which I have my doubts I dont think that is a true fighting man.

[The plunger man]

How the revenue is split is decided between promoters fighters etc. There shouldn’t be any change as a result of fighting in X or Y, or at least that is upto themselves to agree. If total revenue available increased it should equate to a higher amount to the fighter even if they get the same slice of the pie. I’m not suggesting the fighter gets 100% of above. I agree with the sentiment that any site fee shouldn’t usually also be split to broadcaster , although with the deals these guys have in place I couldn’t be too sure. Dazn USA for example were understood to have got paid an element of the saudi fee last time

the USA has two system the 1st the cable providers which can be time warner , Comcast etc who take up to 50% of revenue its then distributed to the networks such as HBO or showtime....I send you a link on how it works so you get an idea, either way I don’t see the POV numbers being able to compete with big Saudi money unless we are talking over two million ppv buys in the US.

[LetOutTheCage]

Whyte became mandatory ONLY AFTER fighting Rivas. He was then suspended due to testing positive for PEDs and only regained his mandatory status in December.

1 month is not a "****** amount of time".

Do you honestly believe Ortiz X2 and Brezeale were more deserving of the Wilder fight?

He was suspended by the WBC and nobody else and the suspension was clearly not justified given that UKAD clearly stated that Whyte was not suspended and was allowed to fight Rivas. He was ultimately confirmed to be innocent.

[Toffee]

Because in the states, it can be a $90 or $100 PPV.

If it's an undisputed fight, it would do at least one million buys. Possibly two million. Although I personally think it'd do around 1.5 million.

Why do you think a PPV screened at prime US time from Saudi will do less than a PPV screened at prime US time in the US?

Ok you lose the big Vegas gate. But you get the big foreign site fee.