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  • Jab jab boom
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    #31
    Originally posted by UNBANNED
    Charlo has looked vulnerable his entire career. That's why he doesnt take real fights. He has yet to fight a Top 10 MW despite receiving a free belt at 160...and his best career win is aging like milk.

    Andrade looks the goods but he was down before at JMW and has yet to fight a Top 10 MW - he also didnt really fight a Top 10 JMW..

    None of that matters much though bc Canelo is likely going to 168
    and why did Charlo receive that free belt? He was Canelo's mandatory yet Canelo decided to pass. Just as he did when ggg was his mandatory but this time, the wbc appeased him and created that bs franchise title.

    The Canelo fan norm is to talk down certain fighters as if they don't deserve a fight with him but then support him fighting an even lesser deserving opponent. That's what they did when fans wanted to see him face ggg, but instead he picked guys like Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr. And just like instead of facing his mandatory in Charlo, he faced rocky fielding. Now we'll see what's next.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
      and why did Charlo receive that free belt? He was Canelo's mandatory yet Canelo decided to pass. Just as he did when ggg was his mandatory but this time, the wbc appeased him and created that bs franchise title.

      The Canelo fan norm is to talk down certain fighters as if they don't deserve a fight with him but then support him fighting an even lesser deserving opponent. That's what they did when fans wanted to see him face ggg, but instead he picked guys like Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr. And just like instead of facing his mandatory in Charlo, he faced rocky fielding. Now we'll see what's next.
      And? Canelo moved up 2 weight classes to fight a future HOF career LHW. That's far more impressive and challenging than a guy with literally zero Top 5 wins at either JMW or MW and arguably lost to some cab driver.

      People wouldve been crying if Canelo ducked Kovalev or was trying to drain him if he fought untested and unremarkable Charlo instead...THAT wouldve been a soft touch. Same applies to Andrade

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        #33
        Originally posted by UNBANNED
        And? Canelo moved up 2 weight classes to fight a future HOF career LHW. That's far more impressive and challenging than a guy with literally zero Top 5 wins at either JMW or MW and arguably lost to some cab driver.

        People wouldve been crying if Canelo ducked Kovalev or was trying to drain him if he fought untested and unremarkable Charlo instead...THAT wouldve been a soft touch. Same applies to Andrade
        Nobody would've been crying because that fight wasn't on anyone's radar until Canelo started saying he wanted him. There were plenty of people from 160-168 that Canelo could've fought. 175 was never really in discussion so no, people wouldn't have cried.
        Last edited by AKAcronym; 01-22-2020, 09:16 AM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by UNBANNED
          Ya Danny Jacobs was a cherrypick and the GGG rematch was a cherrypick

          Are you people all on drugs or actually challenged??
          No the Jacobs fight was a good fight the pvssy-g fight was the cherry pick

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            #35
            Originally posted by Jab jab boom
            actually, if you read his comment appropriately, you'd see that he mentioned that Canelo looks for who's vulnerable. He didn't use the words cherry pick. You did. Saying he picks vulnerable opponents is accurate. Let's go back the past few yrs.

            Khan- was ko'd multiple times and damn near lost to algieri the fight before canelo fought him.

            Liam Smith - clearly the weakest champion at 154.

            Chavez Jr - the definition of hype job who quit against the great fonfara 2 fights before csnslo faced him.

            Ggg- after avoiding the fight for almost 2 yrs, he finally faces a 35 yr old ggg who finally looked vulnerable vs welterweight brook and for the first time in yrs went the distance in a close fight vs Jacobs.

            Rocky fielding - again, clearly the weakest champion in the division (168)

            Jacobs - lost to ggg and just came off a SD against a fighter with 12 fights the fight before facing Canelo.

            Kovalev - an old 36, ko'd twice in the past 2 yrs, and went life and death with a near novice just 10 weeks before facing Canelo.

            Front runners for his next fight are Saunders and Smith. Both looked horrible in their last fights.

            So, saying that Canelo seeks out vulnerable opponents is pretty accurate. He's mastered the art of risk vs reward.
            You have everything right except the pvssy-g & Jacobs. pvssy-g was never that good & the Jacobs fight with Nelo was a good match up & Jacobs also beat pvssy-g.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Califire209
              Canelo ducked Andrade at 154 & now at 160. Once Andrade moves up to 168, Canelo will move up to light heavyweight
              OR back down

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                #37
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                Nobody would've been crying because that fight wasn't on anyone's radar until Canelo started saying he wanted him. There were plenty of people from 160-168 that Canelo could've fought. 175 was never really in discussion so no, people wouldn't have cried.
                And now... nonstop crying. Fixed fight or Kovalev threw it...a joke.

                Nonetheless Kovalev was a greater threat than any MW and most marketable opponent from 160-175

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by j.razor
                  You have everything right except the pvssy-g & Jacobs. pvssy-g was never that good & the Jacobs fight with Nelo was a good match up & Jacobs also beat pvssy-g.
                  Razor you and I and everyone knows GGG beat Jacobs, even knocked him down. We are talking about Canelo. Canelo should fight at 168 . He can fight BJS, Zurdo possibly, Benavidez, That Smith Brother, GGG . Several fights to make. If he really wants to test himself though he needs to face Beterbiev. That would cement his legacy as the greatest of this era though.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by j.razor
                    No the Jacobs fight was a good fight the pvssy-g fight was the cherry pick
                    XD XD XD

                    C'mon XD

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                    • Jab jab boom
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by UNBANNED
                      And? Canelo moved up 2 weight classes to fight a future HOF career LHW. That's far more impressive and challenging than a guy with literally zero Top 5 wins at either JMW or MW and arguably lost to some cab driver.

                      People wouldve been crying if Canelo ducked Kovalev or was trying to drain him if he fought untested and unremarkable Charlo instead...THAT wouldve been a soft touch. Same applies to Andrade
                      you have to put future hall of famer in context when you consider the fact that he was clearly damaged goods. That's like saying he beat a future hall of famer in mosley who was 40 and clearly on a steep decline. Kovalev was a prime example of low risk high reward as his name recognition far surpassed his in ring ability by that point. There's a reason Canelo was a 4-1 favorite and its not because he's a Roy Jones level Uber talent. It's because Kovalev was done as an elite fighter.

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