Who is the Greatest Defensive Fighter of All Time?

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  • MDPopescu
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    #81
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Great post.

    I don't rate Pep as highly as others do but there's no doubt he revolutionised that style. I love Benny Leonard though.
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    • QueensburyRules
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      #82
      Originally posted by Juicy J
      Floyd is the best I've ever seen.
      - -A juicy noob.

      Nothing better!

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      • FannonOG
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        #83
        Floyd "TBE" Mayweather.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #84
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Great post.

          I don't rate Pep as highly as others do but there's no doubt he revolutionised that style. I love Benny Leonard though.
          Thanks bud.

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          • Mikeh333
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            #85
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            You must have missed his fights during his prime in the 60's. He was very difficult to hit cleanly.
            No, there’s a new book out called “Ali By the Numbers.” I listened to an interview with the authors. They did a Compubox analysis on every Ali fight but one, and compared them to judges scorecards. To their surprise they found that Ali got hit a lot in his younger days, but he had an exceptional chin, and the judges were often fooled.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Mikeh333
              No, there’s a new book out called “Ali By the Numbers.” I listened to an interview with the authors. They did a Compubox analysis on every Ali fight but one, and compared them to judges scorecards. To their surprise they found that Ali got hit a lot in his younger days, but he had an exceptional chin, and the judges were often fooled.
              ... "Muhammad Ali: By the Numbers: was published by CompuBox back in 2018...

              ... Ali fought at 15 rounds per match almost all his fights... back then, people had a different perception as regarding the defensive skills at the HW...

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              • bballchump11
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                #87
                Was Ali really defensive?

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #88
                  Willie Pep had a fight that he decided not to throw a single punch in a round. Two out of the three judges gave him the round.

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                  • MiDKnighT
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                    #89
                    Willie Pep. He could win rounds without even throwing a punch.

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                    • joseph5620
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Mikeh333
                      No, there’s a new book out called “Ali By the Numbers.” I listened to an interview with the authors. They did a Compubox analysis on every Ali fight but one, and compared them to judges scorecards. To their surprise they found that Ali got hit a lot in his younger days, but he had an exceptional chin, and the judges were often fooled.
                      Ali did not get hit a lot during the 60's. He was very difficult to hit during his prime. I don't give a shi*t about a meaningless compubox "numbers" book that has no credibility. Anybody that intelligently watches his fights can see that. That's like pissing on somebody and telling them it's rain.

                      Feel free to pick out any one of these fights in it's entirety and point out where Ali was getting hit a lot on the chin.

                      Last edited by joseph5620; 01-28-2020, 03:32 PM.

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