Which is more difficult? Being an elite pro boxer or an elite NFL quarterback?

[HitmanTommy]

I agree. I would also say the same of Dan Marino. A pure passer and able to quickly read defenses and make adjustments on the line. Greatest QB who never won a title and greater than many who did.

Marino's final game was an extremely sad way for his career to end.

[uppercut510]

boxing his the hardest sport to be elite at

[sicko]

I will just say that imho Peyton Manning could have been on any team in the league for a 10 year stretch and they would have won at least 10 games every year and made the playoffs. He was just ahead of the game and was able to engineer an offense like I've never seen before.

He was QB, offensive coordinator and head coach all in one basically.

Peyton was GREAT! However in this comparison against Boxing we're talking about 1 on 1 Competition in which the Boxer have to run his own offense as well as his own defense

QB's don't play defense last time I checked. As great as Peyton was, without Von Miller and that Broncos Defense, it is no way Peyton wins that Championship with the Broncos just saying

Boxers don't have that Luxury!

[UNBANNED]

I think you guys are arguing the opposite point that you are intending to argue.

You guys are really making a strong case that it is harder to be an elite NFL QB. There are more 'elite boxers' and relatively few 'elite' NFL QBs. So by that logic, it is more difficult to be an elite NFL QB.

No. There are 1-2 elite fighters in a given weight class and sometimes NONE.

QBs are primarily of 2 or 3 builds (weight classes). You have your classic stand in the pocket Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Wilson, Maholmes, Wentz, etc. and you have mobile guys like Vick, Lamar Jackson, etc. Those guys are all, more or less, from the same weight class.

It is MUCH easier to be ELITE in QB than in boxing. In NO weight class are there 5+ "elite" fighters.

Being elite in boxing is special. Being elite in NFL is impressive, but it's much easier to do (which is why there are SO MANY elite QBs and so few changes in PFP lists)

[MEXICAN STYLE]

world footballer

[Boxing_1013]

I agree. I would also say the same of Dan Marino. A pure passer and able to quickly read defenses and make adjustments on the line. Greatest QB who never won a title and greater than many who did.

Yep agreed my friend

[Boxing_1013]

Peyton was GREAT! However in this comparison against Boxing we're talking about 1 on 1 Competition in which the Boxer have to run his own offense as well as his own defense

QB's don't play defense last time I checked. As great as Peyton was, without Von Miller and that Broncos Defense, it is no way Peyton wins that Championship with the Broncos just saying

Boxers don't have that Luxury!

Yes that Peyton definitely had help...the defense was a huge part of his success there...that was his last season in the league though, and similar to how I wouldn't list Philip Rivers or even Brady as elite at this moment, I wouldn't list Manning as elite for his final season.

Literally every other season though outside of his first and last season (and probably the season where the Colts went 6-10), you could argue he was elite. That's 14 seasons, and basically consecutively...with two different teams as well, and a myriad of different players and coaches.

From 2002-2014 (12 seasons of play with 1 missed due to injury), the lowest amount of wins his team had was 10, and that only happened twice. The other 10 seasons, he had at least 12 wins...just unbelievable stuff imo.

My point there is just to say that he was an example of a guy who could have gone anywhere in the league (imho) and won at least 10 games over the course of that 10-15 year period...I just think he was that good.

By virtue of that, I don't think the teammates and coaches/organization etc he had on the Colts, overall as a group during that time, were that exceptional...I would say overall they were pretty average.

I think some QBs get looked at as better than they are, because they find themselves with a positive supporting cast...on the contrary, some QBs get a bad shake imo because they are not in good situations...some QBs (Rivers, Brees, Rodgers etc) can be in basically any situation imo and can/could have been great...they are truly special.

It is similar for me with boxers...I think some of them are propped up a little bit beyond what their real value is...some guys are undervalued due to being with bad promotion/being from the wrong country/speaking the wrong language/getting bad cards etc.

And some guys are great and would have been great no matter what...Duran comes to mind, Pac comes to mind there too.

Lara for me is an example of a guy who could be considered 'elite' or greater than he is currently considered, if he were just from a different country/spoke a different language (USA/English), and then got better cards to along with that.

[Boxing_1013]

No. There are 1-2 elite fighters in a given weight class and sometimes NONE.

QBs are primarily of 2 or 3 builds (weight classes). You have your classic stand in the pocket Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Wilson, Maholmes, Wentz, etc. and you have mobile guys like Vick, Lamar Jackson, etc. Those guys are all, more or less, from the same weight class.

It is MUCH easier to be ELITE in QB than in boxing. In NO weight class are there 5+ "elite" fighters.

Being elite in boxing is special. Being elite in NFL is impressive, but it's much easier to do (which is why there are SO MANY elite QBs and so few changes in PFP lists)

So who are some QBs and boxers that you would list as elite?

[IceTrayDaGang]

i dont know which is more difficult but i know boxers/fighters got it worst in terms of making money and a name for themselves... one bad performance or a loss and all of a sudden "he's no good", "he's done", etc. and his purse for his next fight will most likely decrease.

but with b-ball players, the star could have bad games here and there, struggle, missed a grip of shots, etc. but will still be consider as the best to ever do it and will still get the same type of treatment.

[lizard_man]

The nfl is a scripted sport just like the WWE. So once you get to the top 1% they let you in on it. It's a lot harder to be in on it and not spill the beans than just training and fighting. So NFL QBs.