Why are PBC-LDBC fans still excusing Haymon fighters NOT TO CROSS? #Charlo #Wilder

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #11
    Originally posted by BLASTER1
    It wasn't that long ago when none of the pbc crew would fight Spence.
    Don’t be naive. There are many cryptic scripts from PBC fighters not mentioning in-house names by design because guess what!? Haymon advises their roadmap, each, for their monetary gain of fillers and extension while Haymon builds his portfolio and collects fees. This is how it’s always been.

    This is clear since PBC fighters have said they won’t fight on ESPN and only on Fox or Show. We’ve heard them say this. 90% of the interviews say, “I gotta sit down with Al to see...”

    Bradley did the same thing when he would say he wouldn’t fight any Haymon fighters.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #12
      Originally posted by BLASTER1
      It wasn't that long ago when none of the pbc crew would fight Spence.
      the "pbc crew" fight each other....check boxrec if you dont recall...the pbc guys fight each other....

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      • MDPopescu
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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Why can’t Andrade get fights with the DAZN top MWs?
        ... are we to understand that Jarmall is fighting Derevyanchenko next?... (same roster...)

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        • Cobra Curry
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          #14
          Originally posted by Young Bidness
          that’s a flawed theory and cliche one at best. Not all Southpaws are difficult, depends on the fighter who can nullify. Canelo Alvarez is in his prime. Classics fans act like casuals when they reference fights 7 years prior as if a fighter hasn’t evolved. The Canelo Haters say he had problems with Southpaws in Trout. Regardless if Canelo decisively beating Trout, then why would he fight Lara it industry knew he would be even more difficult than Trout? Derp derp

          Jacobs couldn’t do anything even switching at Southpaw against Canelo let alone GGg.

          Then you’ve got the holy grail of “stylistic Southpaw nightmare” in BJS where everyone said would be a problem for Canelo, particularly after seeing the Lemeiux fight. As if Canelo fights anything like Lemeiux.

          I mean. These things are cakewalk to address
          Cliche or not, I've seen enough fighters of Andrade's type get swerved to know that there's truth in it. Of course, not all southpaws are slippery and elusive but Andrade happens to be.
          Credit to Canelo for taking on Lara, but his comments about Andrade being "boring" or indeed Charlo's about him being a "nobody" sound too familiar to be coincidental.

          You appear to have taken my previous comment as some kind of swipe at Canelo and while I'll never be his biggest fan, it was honestly just an observation based on what I've seen over a number of years with various fighters.

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          • Ray*
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            #15
            Originally posted by Cobra Curry
            Tricky southpaws who tend to make opponents look a bit silly will always have trouble landing certain fights.
            Fighters HATE being made to look silly.
            Andrade's not the first and he won't be the last.
            Pretty much this ^^^. Canelo and GGG aren’t going to fight Boo Boo, with Canelo I really don’t mind because he can pick and choose who he wants, he fought Lara and Trout when we all said he wouldn’t.

            With GGG I want him to fight those sort of threat too. But GGG only moves when Canelo moves, so Boo boo’s promoter is doing what a promoter should be doing, trying to get him fights that would propel him to those names.

            It’s a sad event when boxing fans are deflecting why another boxer (Charlo) who is in the same shoes as Boo Boo, who has been offered a career high payday to unify is belt.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Pretty much this ^^^. Canelo and GGG aren’t going to fight Boo Boo, with Canelo I really don’t mind because he can pick and choose who he wants, he fought Lara and Trout when we all said he wouldn’t.

              With GGG I want him to fight those sort of threat too. But GGG only moves when Canelo moves, so Boo boo’s promoter is doing what a promoter should be doing, trying to get him fights that would propel him to those names.

              It’s a sad event when boxing fans are deflecting why another boxer (Charlo) who is in the same shoes as Boo Boo, who has been offered a career high payday to unify is belt.
              PBC is going to take a huge hit after Wilder loses next month, throwing Charlo in with Andrade is basic suicide because it’s a huge mismatch in favor of Andrade . Haymon won’t be foolish to let that fight happen as well knowing he’s stuck with the Fury signed contractual ones that are going to bury Wilder . You’ll just see guys like Spence , Charlo, Tank being protected but this little group is on its way out by 2022 .

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ray*
                Pretty much this ^^^. Canelo and GGG aren’t going to fight Boo Boo, with Canelo I really don’t mind because he can pick and choose who he wants, he fought Lara and Trout when we all said he wouldn’t.

                With GGG I want him to fight those sort of threat too. But GGG only moves when Canelo moves, so Boo boo’s promoter is doing what a promoter should be doing, trying to get him fights that would propel him to those names.

                It’s a sad event when boxing fans are deflecting why another boxer (Charlo) who is in the same shoes as Boo Boo, who has been offered a career high payday to unify is belt.
                Yes indeed.
                Charlo v Andrade is the fight that makes sense at this point.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  ... are we to understand that Jarmall is fighting Derevyanchenko next?... (same roster...)
                  I don’t know if that fight has been announced yet. If not deverychenko than korobov deserves a rematch.

                  That stated , can you tell me why Andrade can’t get fights with DAZN guys while he is already signed to DAZN!

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #19
                    I notice the DAZN interns haven’t been able to answer why Andrade can’t get a fight with the top DAZN MWs even though he is signed to DAZN

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      Pretty much this ^^^. Canelo and GGG aren’t going to fight Boo Boo, with Canelo I really don’t mind because he can pick and choose who he wants, he fought Lara and Trout when we all said he wouldn’t.

                      With GGG I want him to fight those sort of threat too. But GGG only moves when Canelo moves, so Boo boo’s promoter is doing what a promoter should be doing, trying to get him fights that would propel him to those names.

                      It’s a sad event when boxing fans are deflecting why another boxer (Charlo) who is in the same shoes as Boo Boo, who has been offered a career high payday to unify is belt.
                      I just want to be sure I understand your point.

                      it’s ok for canelo not to fight Andrade in 2020 because he fought Lara and trout at jmw in 2014?

                      And it’s ok for ggg not to fight Andrade as well why he waits for canelo and instead fight a 25-1 underdog.

                      But when Charlo doesnt fight Andrade it’s a problem and bad for the sport?

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