Why are PBC-LDBC fans still excusing Haymon fighters NOT TO CROSS? #Charlo #Wilder

[The Big Dunn]

I'm just a boxing fan but that is a great question, I get the concern about charlo Andrade id love to see it and don't care how its made but why make a big fuss about pbc but ignore that hearn has Andrade along with other big names on the same network and has yet to get Andrade in there with any of them? it makes your argument weak. but I'm sure its hard to call out the guy you work for so I understand

That is all that it comes down to.

He wants to see Canelo/GGG the same way I want to see Canelo/Charlo. Both of us know andrade fighting either of the 3 potentially ruins that. Instead of him calling on dazn to do the right thing, he and others are killing charlo for doing the exact same thing GGG and canelo are doing- staying the hell away from andrade.

[DaNeutral.]

None taken. I respect the fact you have a strong opinion on this.

I understand financially ggg and canelo generate more than Charlo. I just don't think its fair that just because they do they get to avoid fights and it be excused but when Charo does same it is somehow detrimental to the sport. if I am charlo why would I risk losing my spot when the other top guys arent going to do it?

The winner of Charlo/Andrade is still behind ggg and canelo and still must wait for that fight, which there is no guarantee they will get.

So you acknowledge Charlo is ducking the fight but get uptight when people call Charlo a ducker for ducking the fight.

[SplitSecond]

Andrade should try fighting Murata, Eubanks or Derevyanchenko. Charlo should be looking to fight all the names I mentioned(Andrade included), but he’s a btch. So ***’em.

[DaNeutral.]

That is all that it comes down to.

He wants to see Canelo/GGG the same way I want to see Canelo/Charlo. Both of us know andrade fighting either of the 3 potentially ruins that. Instead of him calling on dazn to do the right thing, he and others are killing charlo for doing the exact same thing GGG and canelo are doing- staying the hell away from andrade.

Canelo v Charlo? Thats not happening right now, Canelo is supposed to fighting at 168 next. His last fight was at 175. I get it you want that fight but its clearly not happening and you would rather a world champion hide from threats in the hope that 1 day he may get a shot at Canelo. Do you not have any faith in your fighter? Do you not want to see your fighter Unifying?

You guys are really confusing.

[The Big Dunn]

So you acknowledge Charlo is ducking the fight but get uptight when people call Charlo a ducker for ducking the fight.

I acknowledge that all 3 are avoiding Andrade. I find it disingenuous when you and others fail to call the others out and only call Charlo out for it.

I find you and bidness to be compete frauds because you both know why dazn isnt't making the andrade fights with canelo and ggg but you justify it.

[DaNeutral.]

I acknowledge that all 3 are avoiding Andrade. I find it disingenuous when you and others fail to call the others out and only call Charlo out for it.

I find you and bidness to be compete frauds because you both know why dazn isnt't making the andrade fights with canelo and ggg but you justify it.

Well Canelo is clear as day not avoiding Andrade Canelo just fought at 175 and is apparently considering a fight at 168 against BJS, a good fight in itself. Has Andrade sent any offers to Golovkin for a fight for Golovkin to duck? Ive never heard of any so there is nothing to say on that really. Id like them to fight and seeing as both are champs it makes sense to fight. But Andrade has offered Charlo, the other champion, a unification and hes ducked it.

[The Big Dunn]

Canelo v Charlo? Thats not happening right now, Canelo is supposed to fighting at 168 next. His last fight was at 175. I get it you want that fight but its clearly not happening and you would rather a world champion hide from threats in the hope that 1 day he may get a shot at Canelo. Do you not have any faith in your fighter? Do you not want to see your fighter Unifying?

You guys are really confusing.

It isn't about faith in a "my" fighter, it is about right and wrong. You saying that is confusing is pure BS.

What Canelo did was wrong. Period. What dazn is doing to Andrade is wrong. Period. The media PR leak and blitz about the offer to charlo (which apparently hasn't been seen by anyone in Charlo's camp) is BS.

You guys claim to care about the integrity of the sport and what is right-ok show that by holding dazn accountable for failing to make the best MW fights since they have 3 of the top 4 guys in house.

Instead, you want to make Haymon/Charlo evil for doing the same thing Hearn/GGG are doing, holding out until the big payday comes.

Then you criticize Charlo's opponents (which is fair) while staying silent while GGG fights a 25-1 underdog and Andrade fights a dude less known than that rather than fight each other in a unification bout.

Sorry but if you are ok with dazn waiting on making fights don't get mad at me and others when pbc does the same thing.

[The Big Dunn]

Well Canelo is clear as day not avoiding Andrade Canelo just fought at 175 and is apparently considering a fight at 168 against BJS, a good fight in itself. Has Andrade sent any offers to Golovkin for a fight for Golovkin to duck? Ive never heard of any so there is nothing to say on that really. Id like them to fight and seeing as both are champs it makes sense to fight. But Andrade has offered Charlo, the other champion, a unification and hes ducked it.

A "good" fight, just not the best or most meaningful. You know damn well you'd rather see GGG/canelo 3 or Canel/Charlo rather than Canelo/BJS.

Stop asking b sides to send offers please. that is so fake of you. Dazn has the power to make fights if they want.They aren't, But you're fine with that because you don't want the big fight jeopardized. Instead you are on board with GGG and andrade fighting no hopers.

Charlo has decided to wait until the big offer comes. DAZN has been rejected so they should move on and make the in house unification, right?

[DaNeutral.]

It isn't about faith in a "my" fighter, it is about right and wrong. You saying that is confusing is pure BS.

What Canelo did was wrong. Period. What dazn is doing to Andrade is wrong. Period. The media PR leak and blitz about the offer to charlo (which apparently hasn't been seen by anyone in Charlo's camp) is BS.

You guys claim to care about the integrity of the sport and what is right-ok show that by holding dazn accountable for failing to make the best MW fights since they have 3 of the top 4 guys in house.

Instead, you want to make Haymon/Charlo evil for doing the same thing Hearn/GGG are doing, holding out until the big payday comes. Then you criticize Charlo's opponents (which is fair) while staying silent while GGG fights a 25-1 underdog and Andrade fights a dude less known than that rather than fight each other in a unification bout.

I just want good fights and while there is more than 1 belt per division i want to see them get unified. Andrade is a champ, Charlo is a champ and for some reasons Charlo and Charlo fans dont want it to happen. Any Boxer i am a fan of that has a belt i want to see unify. I just thought that was standard practice for a Boxing fan.

[The Big Dunn]

I just want good fights and while there is more than 1 belt per division i want to see them get unified. Andrade is a champ, Charlo is a champ and for some reasons Charlo and Charlo fans dont want it to happen. Any Boxer i am a fan of that has a belt i want to see unify. I just thought that was standard practice for a Boxing fan.

Now you are back to not being genuine. If you TRULY wanted to see the belts unified you would have taken a different stance on the garbage fight andrade and ggg are taking next rather than unifying. I haven't seen any criticism from you in this regard. As soon as the media reports about the charlo offer surfaced you went in about ducking.

I don't doubt you are a boxing fan but your primary issue is making Haymon and PBC the bad guy or "hurting the sport" for whatever reasons. That is why you are being so vocal about this Charlo thing.

You want to see the Haymon fighter lose more than you want to see unification. You want to see GGG get a chance to rectify what you consider bad judges scoring against Canelo in 2 fights before you want Andrade to get a chance to unify. You can't admit that because it looks bad.

Andrade is low reward, high risk for ggg, canelo and Charlo. All 3 can make money without fighting Andrade. Beating Andrade doesn't bring GGG or Charlo closer to a Canelo fight.

If you are mad, then be mad at all of it, not just selective anger aimed at the one entity you despise.