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Yea except one doesn’t put money on crazy power if that guy still got outboxed after knock downs he managed while having a panel of several all time greats hired by Wilders promoters tell everyone Fury has no chance which proved foolish and why people have to ignore anything outside the actual match up ..Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-15-2020, 08:25 PM.Comment
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Deontay is proving more and more of you to be frauds with each knockout.Comment
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you're missing the point
EH said this after wilder had made his offer...and after AJ had made his '50m' statement.
in fact what EH is saying here only supports my view that what AJ said was in reference to the proposed wembley fight. EH goes on to explain as much when he starts talking about 'sponsorship deals' eg there are obligations aj must fulfill..and the offer from wilder may not have inc those.
what you've done is claimed AJ was specifically talking about america and saying 'make me a 50m offer in the US', then you've dragged the narrative to 'even EH said the US was bigger'
although that was a largely irrelevant point compared to what we were actually discussing.
listen closer to what EH is saying on that just prior...
'AJ would like to be involved and have some kind of control'
EH then goes on to talk up the merits of doing the fight in the UK.
furthermore, EH was in the US talking to the likes of bluebloodsports and fighthype...he tends to talk up murica when he's around those guys.
also, notice EH here is literally begging to meet with team pbc...and they cancelled the meeting.
what sort of bs is that? 'we will only meet if you VERBALLY ACCEPT the offer without seeing the terms'.
imagine someone doing that to floyd mayweather?
i dont see how the fight would be bigger in the US anyway...
just think about this
europe and africa is sleeping when the US is awake.
when europe and africa is awake, so is the US
so it makes far more sense to put on a fight in the UK.
the fact is the aj-ruiz fight broke dazn records aswell as sky sports record, when it was on in saudi
the UK is a more favourable time..a 10pm fight here is a 5pm fight there.
that's a good time for a saturday.
maybe bigger 'in the US alone' but the fight would be bigger globally when hosted in the UK.
london is the financial and cultural capital of the world. the US has alienated itself post 9/11. the worlds media wouldnt be flocking to the US like they would London.Comment
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if you listen to AJ's original ifl interview
within that kugan and aj are talking about the split terms
ie wilder had apparently said '60-40' both ways, wilder would get 60% in the US
So anyway AJ just says 'that's 50-50'.
however it is still built around the premise of the uk fight being first and where wilder wanted 40% in the uk and 60% in the US (which as i explained aj made into 50-50)
the all important part here is it was all based on the first fight taking place in the uk.
go and watch it.
furthermore you remember that the 100m number being touted only sprang up in response to matchroom's 12.5m offer.
it is reasonable for me to assume they are referring to the uk fight.
also, just so we're on the same page..
wilder stands to earn far far more than $15m now...so from that perspective he was right to not take the fight back then.
how do you know finkle and hearn didnt sit down together and plan all of this? how do you know al haymon isnt also involved and they're just playing the whole race thing within that?
we simply don't know.
my entire point here was that what aj said, he meant it 'differently' and in fact if you watch the interview, when aj talked those numbers it was as an example of how negotiating should work.Comment
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No, it's all based on Hearn wanting the first fight to take place in the UK, while the Wilder side was insisting the fight would make much much more in the US. Hearn was trying to downplay the discrepancy and claim it would only make 10-15 million more in the US, while the Wilder side was insisting the fight would make way way more in the US.
That was an on going argument between the two sides. How much more it would make in the US. Hearn's side insisting it was a 40-50 million fight in the UK and maybe a 55-65 million fight in the US, while Wilder's side kept insisting it was a 100 million fight in the US.
So that is the context under which Joshua asked for 50 million. Nobody from either side ever claimed it was a 100 million fight in the UK. AJ's own words were, "Apparently it's a $100 million fight. That's what they're saying."
So it was in response to Wilder's side saying it was a $100 million fight in the US that Joshua said, okay, if that's true, give me $50 million. He was trying to call their bluff because Hearn was telling him Wilder's side was full of **** about the fight being worth $100 million in the US.
I can understand your confusion because you're a fan and wouldn't have been privy to the back and forth between Hearn and Finkel. So the context of Joshua's statement wouldn't be immediately clear to you.
Wrong. In response to Hearn's 12.5 offer, Wilder's side pointed out that they believed the fight was worth 100 in the US and that 12.5 was a ridiculous offer. That's why you saw journalists point out that the fight had the "potential" to do 100. With of course the fight needing to take place in the US to have any chance of it reaching its potential.furthermore you remember that the 100m number being touted only sprang up in response to matchroom's 12.5m offer.
it is reasonable for me to assume they are referring to the uk fight.Comment
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