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lmfao no, because iw as a little teeny bit wrong on the facts eg that it wasnt schaeffer who originated the $100m projection, but the reporter...that doesnt change the core fact that the $100m projection was in the context of the proposed uk/wembley fight.
it was a case of americans inflating the revenue to get wilder more money..whereas in reality wilder isnt a draw in the US.
Wrong. Nobody projected the fight to do 100MM if held at Wembley. Hearn was trying to claim the fight would do 50MM and that 12.5MM represented a 75/25 split. Which even if he was telling the truth, should show he was ducking the fight because he's just given Parker 33%, even though the WBO is worth far less than the WBC and New Zealand is worth far less than the US.
well the report abramovitz did..and it is easy to understand that the context referred to the offer already made to wilder.
ie 'they've offered him $12.5m but it will do 80-100m revenue'.
since it refers to the offer EH had already made then clearly the context refers to the proposed wembley fight.
As for splits...
that doesnt prove ducking...it's called negotiating..
parker didnt just get offered $7m, his promoter negotiated to that point. Furthermore AJ had one less belt, wasnt as big as he was commercially at that stage.
Wilder was being offered almost twice what Parker got.
end of the day, EH has a track record of working with lots of fighters and promoters..he is known for being 'easy to work with'.
Who is it who does business by EMAIL?? seriously, in a time direct video conversations, why would anyone do business via email? the only time to send an email is to send terms..but otherwise finkle/al haymon could talk to EH on the phone and be like
"come on man, 12.5m? we want 25m"
that's what parker's promoter did.....and that guy was very up front when he was dissing EH, they ended up even having a funny little face off
we saw when fury and wilder agreed to fight, no venue, no date etc..and both got significantly less than $12.5m
lastly Wilder said he would accept a lowball offer..he claimed aj wouldnt even offer a lowball offer..
so yeh offering him $12.5m ie a 'lowball offer' (which is more than he's still earnt till this day) was a direct result of what wilder said himself.
Wilder's side said why should the fight be in the UK if it makes twice as much in the US? Hearn claimed the fight would only do 60MM in the US and increased his offer to 15MM, with the idea being that Wilder would get 25% of what the fight would do in the US, but the fight would still be held in the UK.
where is your proof for this? ive not seen any of this on video..
EH said $60m in response to the original $100m claim.
A few other points
-you've not even acknowledged the contradiction between finkle and frank warren about the rematch clause. that there was evidence they were lying since finkle said there's no rematch clause...and frank warren said there was.
-in NY state law, like many parts of the US, a verbal agreement is legally binding. So AJ had to choose his words carefully. His response to the offer was
"let's go" (as in, let's do this).
EH's response was "we're definitely interested, let's meet to discuss terms". Wilder responded with "you wont see the contract until you publicly say the words "deontay wilder, i accept your offer". Part of that from wilder was to coax aj into acting like a B side fighter...and the second was to make AJ accept a contract he hasnt even seen...a verbal agreement that would be legally binding.
Frank Warren further said BT sports were going to front the money...when AJ is contracted EXCLUSIVELY to sky sports.
they were clearly fking with AJ.
-another example, wilder rejected an offer because of 'no date/venue' yet his own offer didnt have a date/venue. Finkle's article which i linked you, specifically proves that because inkle said 'it happens when/where wilder chooses'.
look, im only responding to you because you keep on clinging to this $50m bs...but wilder has contradicted himself on many times.
another example...wilder waited util canelo-ggg was announced, he knew that was on because he's close with espinoza. once the canelo-ggg fight got announced, then espinoza told EH the fight will have to move to a different date not to clash with the canelo fight (they couldnt do 2 superfights within 2 weeks of each other). EH then updated this to 'if we cant do the september Wembley date then because of the weather, we'll have to do it at Cardiff (it has a closing roof) in october' (aj-parker was at cardiff, its an 80k stadium).
So wilder waited for this..then came up with the excuse 'no date/venue'..this was planned. he only used aj's name all summer to promote himself and it failed, he did **** numbers vs fury.
his own 50m offer didnt contain a date/venue yet aj gets attacked for rejecting that.
also, weve seen wilder go on to reject a $100m offer from dazn saying 'i will only take that fight if i get 50%'. that again contradicts what he's said before.
we've further seen AJ make close to $200m over 2 fights vs ruiz.
you've got to be living in cloud cuckoo land...it's blatantly obv wilder has ducked aj, used his name to promote himself and still done **** numbers.
i used to be a wilder fan before all this ****.
ironically so was aj
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wilder also ducked whyte...we all know it.
i dont care if wilder would ko whyte in 1 round, the fact is he has blatantly ducked him
wilder has ducked klitschko, fact.
the only guys he's fought were an old ortiz who HE admitted was older than he even says (ie 45+) and a 50% tyson fury who he saw as an easy touch.
it was a case of americans inflating the revenue to get wilder more money..whereas in reality wilder isnt a draw in the US.
Wrong. Nobody projected the fight to do 100MM if held at Wembley. Hearn was trying to claim the fight would do 50MM and that 12.5MM represented a 75/25 split. Which even if he was telling the truth, should show he was ducking the fight because he's just given Parker 33%, even though the WBO is worth far less than the WBC and New Zealand is worth far less than the US.
well the report abramovitz did..and it is easy to understand that the context referred to the offer already made to wilder.
ie 'they've offered him $12.5m but it will do 80-100m revenue'.
since it refers to the offer EH had already made then clearly the context refers to the proposed wembley fight.
As for splits...
that doesnt prove ducking...it's called negotiating..
parker didnt just get offered $7m, his promoter negotiated to that point. Furthermore AJ had one less belt, wasnt as big as he was commercially at that stage.
Wilder was being offered almost twice what Parker got.
end of the day, EH has a track record of working with lots of fighters and promoters..he is known for being 'easy to work with'.
Who is it who does business by EMAIL?? seriously, in a time direct video conversations, why would anyone do business via email? the only time to send an email is to send terms..but otherwise finkle/al haymon could talk to EH on the phone and be like
"come on man, 12.5m? we want 25m"
that's what parker's promoter did.....and that guy was very up front when he was dissing EH, they ended up even having a funny little face off
we saw when fury and wilder agreed to fight, no venue, no date etc..and both got significantly less than $12.5m
lastly Wilder said he would accept a lowball offer..he claimed aj wouldnt even offer a lowball offer..
so yeh offering him $12.5m ie a 'lowball offer' (which is more than he's still earnt till this day) was a direct result of what wilder said himself.
Wilder's side said why should the fight be in the UK if it makes twice as much in the US? Hearn claimed the fight would only do 60MM in the US and increased his offer to 15MM, with the idea being that Wilder would get 25% of what the fight would do in the US, but the fight would still be held in the UK.
where is your proof for this? ive not seen any of this on video..
EH said $60m in response to the original $100m claim.
A few other points
-you've not even acknowledged the contradiction between finkle and frank warren about the rematch clause. that there was evidence they were lying since finkle said there's no rematch clause...and frank warren said there was.
-in NY state law, like many parts of the US, a verbal agreement is legally binding. So AJ had to choose his words carefully. His response to the offer was
"let's go" (as in, let's do this).
EH's response was "we're definitely interested, let's meet to discuss terms". Wilder responded with "you wont see the contract until you publicly say the words "deontay wilder, i accept your offer". Part of that from wilder was to coax aj into acting like a B side fighter...and the second was to make AJ accept a contract he hasnt even seen...a verbal agreement that would be legally binding.
Frank Warren further said BT sports were going to front the money...when AJ is contracted EXCLUSIVELY to sky sports.
they were clearly fking with AJ.
-another example, wilder rejected an offer because of 'no date/venue' yet his own offer didnt have a date/venue. Finkle's article which i linked you, specifically proves that because inkle said 'it happens when/where wilder chooses'.
look, im only responding to you because you keep on clinging to this $50m bs...but wilder has contradicted himself on many times.
another example...wilder waited util canelo-ggg was announced, he knew that was on because he's close with espinoza. once the canelo-ggg fight got announced, then espinoza told EH the fight will have to move to a different date not to clash with the canelo fight (they couldnt do 2 superfights within 2 weeks of each other). EH then updated this to 'if we cant do the september Wembley date then because of the weather, we'll have to do it at Cardiff (it has a closing roof) in october' (aj-parker was at cardiff, its an 80k stadium).
So wilder waited for this..then came up with the excuse 'no date/venue'..this was planned. he only used aj's name all summer to promote himself and it failed, he did **** numbers vs fury.
his own 50m offer didnt contain a date/venue yet aj gets attacked for rejecting that.
also, weve seen wilder go on to reject a $100m offer from dazn saying 'i will only take that fight if i get 50%'. that again contradicts what he's said before.
we've further seen AJ make close to $200m over 2 fights vs ruiz.
you've got to be living in cloud cuckoo land...it's blatantly obv wilder has ducked aj, used his name to promote himself and still done **** numbers.
i used to be a wilder fan before all this ****.
ironically so was aj
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wilder also ducked whyte...we all know it.
i dont care if wilder would ko whyte in 1 round, the fact is he has blatantly ducked him
wilder has ducked klitschko, fact.
the only guys he's fought were an old ortiz who HE admitted was older than he even says (ie 45+) and a 50% tyson fury who he saw as an easy touch.
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