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  • OldTerry
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    #51
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    It isn't a PPV worthy, neither is Loma-Lopez. Promoters are getting too greedy.
    Loma-Lopez would be good fight but as you said not ppv quality. In fact it would in my opinion be better than Loma-Davis, difference being I'd pay to see Loma school Davis.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg
      So why do you think this is responded to differently?
      This is NSB. Whenever a boxer associated with Haymon and Floyd uses their power like other top guys NSB has a collective fit. I don't want to make it all about race and jealousy but those are the 2 primary reasons from where I sit.

      Tank has established himself as a draw so he is going to be able to do things much like a young Canelo did, even though he isn't anywhere as big a draw. He has powerful backing so he will get title shots and high rankings just like other guys have always got.

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        #53
        Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
        I'm not sure that it is. Alot of fighters have fans who follow them regardless. Maybe the actual fight is less important than the event of it; it doesn't have to be a compelling fight for it to be a.compelling event as a centerpiece to a night of entertainment. There's nothing wrong with that but the fight itself can be judged based on its own merit.

        Alot of boxing fans, myself included, thought Khan vs Canelo was a farce but it didn't stop people from watching it or enjoying the event of it. Same with GGG vs Brook or countless other fights...

        If Tank can make the PPV buys and sell the tickets for this then more power to him. If the fight is at 135 (and I can't see Tank getting down to 130), then there's really nothing compelling about it for me. LSC was never a power puncher even at his best weights and his defense isn't all that great. Just don't see the competition in it.
        Boxing isn’t always about who is the best puncher, a short stroll down boxing memory lane proves that. Had it been 10 or 12 rounds, Billy Conn and his feather fists would have made history....

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          This is NSB. Whenever a boxer associated with Haymon and Floyd uses their power like other top guys NSB has a collective fit. I don't want to make it all about race and jealousy but those are the 2 primary reasons from where I sit.

          Tank has established himself as a draw so he is going to be able to do things much like a young Canelo did, even though he isn't anywhere as big a draw. He has powerful backing so he will get title shots and high rankings just like other guys have always got.
          Bingo......

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            #55
            Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
            I'm not sure that it is. Alot of fighters have fans who follow them regardless. Maybe the actual fight is less important than the event of it; it doesn't have to be a compelling fight for it to be a.compelling event as a centerpiece to a night of entertainment. There's nothing wrong with that but the fight itself can be judged based on its own merit.

            Alot of boxing fans, myself included, thought Khan vs Canelo was a farce but it didn't stop people from watching it or enjoying the event of it. Same with GGG vs Brook or countless other fights...

            If Tank can make the PPV buys and sell the tickets for this then more power to him. If the fight is at 135 (and I can't see Tank getting down to 130), then there's really nothing compelling about it for me. LSC was never a power puncher even at his best weights and his defense isn't all that great. Just don't see the competition in it.
            The fights were a farce but if you are a huge fan of Canelo or GGG you got a chance to see your favorite look dominant. This is exactly what the networks want because as long as they have a top guy winning that will draw fans and make revenue.

            Look at Canelo/Kovalev. That didn't do the kind of business a Canelo fight usually does but even at 60% of hi s regular numbers at the gate and viewership that fight did better than every fight except AJ/Ruiz 2.

            I think diehard boxing fans forget that ratings can be achieved in any number of ways. while we prefer ratings come from the best fights, the fact is the top guys can fight bums and still get high ratings.

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              #56
              Davis has yet to fight on free TV, why can't they explore that option before putting him on PPV? Are LSC and Tank really commanding such high purses that this absolutely needs to be on PPV?

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                #57
                Originally posted by OldTerry
                Loma-Lopez would be good fight but as you said not ppv quality. In fact it would in my opinion be better than Loma-Davis, difference being I'd pay to see Loma school Davis.
                I'd pay for this one, too, to see Loma flat on his back and getting counted out. In fact, this is the ONLY PPV fight I'd pay for.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Please dude learn how to read. I didn't compare Davis to Canelo. I compared fans wanting to see Davis win with fans wanting to see Canelo win. That is why Davis gets a PPV fight like this the same way Canelo had the Kahn PPV.
                  Canelo could sell a PPV no matter who he fights, Davis doesn't have that kind of following plain and simple. So that comparison is invalid. Porky vs LSC is not a hot ticket or a fight anybody is asking for. Khan at least had great speed on his side. LSC has not one advantage in this fight, he isn't quick and doesn't pack power and he is smaller. This won't do 1/3 of the sales Canelo would do when he was PPV.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jonnyc420
                    Canelo could sell a PPV no matter who he fights, Davis doesn't have that kind of following plain and simple. So that comparison is invalid. Porky vs LSC is not a hot ticket or a fight anybody is asking for. Khan at least had great speed on his side. LSC has not one advantage in this fight, he isn't quick and doesn't pack power and he is smaller. This won't do 1/3 of the sales Canelo would do when he was PPV.
                    In the post you responded to I clearly state Davis isn't the draw Canelo is. Nobody asked for Kahn/Canelo, Spence/Mikey or GGG/Brook either.

                    Davis is a proven draw. He fills arenas. He will get fights like this because of it.

                    Kahn had no advantage whatsoever against Canelo. He was there to get KTFO and that is what happened.

                    We agree, it may not do 1/3 of the sales. If it does, than 1/3rd is 330k. 330k at $75 . do the math dude.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      I'd pay for this one, too, to see Loma flat on his back and getting counted out. In fact, this is the ONLY PPV fight I'd pay for.
                      I disagree with you about the outcome but what the heck, we both would pay to see them fight.

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