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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by mindgames View Post
    haye set the bar very high proclaiming himself the saviour of the division and klitschko a scared bum. When haye lost to a shopworn 40 year old thompson, hes excuse was he didnt train. Yeah he beat valuev, but it was one of the worst, low output title fights i ever saw. Valuev had lost to chagaev, and by consensus opinion, a totally shot holyfield. Ruiz was shot, and was rabbit punched to oblivion. Barrett was never top class. Audley had been crushed by sprott, chinny and never reached world class. So we have the fight with wlad, where he said he was 100% but then claimed injury when he lost. He fought two absolute unknowns before bellew, which was also excused. The best win was actually chisora, whos never beaten a world class fighter, but was tough, although well beaten by one armed vitali and novice fury. Haye was a king of marketing, talking the part, and conning the paying public.
    Aaa-mennnnnn !!!!

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  • dan_cov
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    Why is Haye being credited for beating journeyman? I've never seen a HW get so much praise for beating such a poor level of opposition as David Haye.

    If Haye had half the boxing ability as he did to sell a fight he'd be still unified HW champion to this day.

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  • Mindgames
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    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
    Haye was never knocked out by Carl Thompson. It was a stoppage. Thompson was a very underrated and durable fighter and young Haye was beating the hell out of him before he gassed out.

    He fought a Prime Chisora who was never hurt or wobbled up until that point and stopped him.

    He also fought a guy who is 7 ft tall and made him do the chicken dance. Haye might have had the best career but your playing down his accomplishments a great deal. In a great deal of his fights at heavyweight he was giving up a significant size and reach advantage to his opponents
    Haye set the bar very high proclaiming himself the saviour of the division and Klitschko a scared bum. When Haye lost to a shopworn 40 year old Thompson, hes excuse was he didnt train. Yeah he beat Valuev, but it was one of the worst, low output title fights i ever saw. Valuev had lost to Chagaev, and by consensus opinion, a totally shot Holyfield. Ruiz was shot, and was rabbit punched to oblivion. Barrett was never top class. Audley had been crushed by Sprott, chinny and never reached world class. So we have the fight with Wlad, where he said he was 100% but then claimed injury when he lost. He fought two absolute unknowns before Bellew, which was also excused. The best win was actually Chisora, whos never beaten a world class fighter, but was tough, although well beaten by one armed Vitali and novice Fury. Haye was a king of marketing, talking the part, and conning the paying public.

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  • Mindgames
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    "The early rounds that i was winning?". He never got a good shot off in the whole fight. He thought Bellew was easy money, and like all these people who say they came in injured not 100%, you are basically admitting you were conning the public. So thanks Dave, from the heart of my bottom.. 🖕

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    David Haye in my opinion was a better cruiser-weight and heavyweight than Usyk 'Time will tell, soon as Usyk faces a game prepared heavyweight? He will be bullied out of the division'.
    I'll be here to shake your hand and tell you "you were right" if what you say now becomes reality.
    Last edited by Tatabanya; 01-05-2020, 09:26 AM.

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
    Haye was never knocked out by Carl Thompson. It was a stoppage. Thompson was a very underrated and durable fighter and young Haye was beating the hell out of him before he gassed out.

    He fought a Prime Chisora who was never hurt or wobbled up until that point and stopped him.

    He also fought a guy who is 7 ft tall and made him do the chicken dance. Haye might have had the best career but your playing down his accomplishments a great deal. In a great deal of his fights at heavyweight he was giving up a significant size and reach advantage to his opponents
    All good points, still not sufficient (in my opinion) to include Haye in the pantheon of ATGs.

    But, as I replied above to PrinceKool, Canastota welcomes anyone who has a pulse these days.

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    David Haye destroyed John Ruiz & Audley Harrison, and before that his first fight at heavyweight was Monte Barrett 'In comparison to Uysk? Haye was actually acting like he wanted to fight real heavyweights.

    Note: David Haye actually fought Tomasz Bonin as his first fight at heavyweight. You are also mentioning Carl Thompson's name as if he was a bad fighter, Thompson had the durability and power to spark Usyk.

    Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk is the most overrated fighter, I have seen in the sport of boxing for 20 years.

    There is no 6"3 heavyweight active today with the attributes of David Haye, there is no heavyweight with his speed, reflexes, power or athleticism 'He also had a sublime defensive capabilities'.
    We'll see in a few years. By now the doors of Canastota are open to most anybody, so Haye might have a chance after all.
    Last edited by Tatabanya; 01-05-2020, 08:55 AM.

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  • LetOutTheCage
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    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
    Let's be honest, though, and check the crude facts beyond the memory. Mormeck was a solid fighter but not an ATG, so wasn't Haye. His only defense after that was against no-hoper Maccarinelli.

    Then an immediate jump to heavyweights, an alphabet trinket won against a freak who could not box, defended against no less than John Ruiz and Audley Harrison, and mostly remembered for the little toe farce after Klitschko whitewashed him.

    Not to mention being knocked out by Carl Thompson, even if Haye was still green then.

    Not exactly the stuff of legends. Again, he made millions with the little he had.
    Haye was never knocked out by Carl Thompson. It was a stoppage. Thompson was a very underrated and durable fighter and young Haye was beating the hell out of him before he gassed out.

    He fought a Prime Chisora who was never hurt or wobbled up until that point and stopped him.

    He also fought a guy who is 7 ft tall and made him do the chicken dance. Haye might have had the best career but your playing down his accomplishments a great deal. In a great deal of his fights at heavyweight he was giving up a significant size and reach advantage to his opponents

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  • CasperUK
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    Haye was someone I followed quite closely, and was a fan of. But just looking at him you knew he was very undersized at HW and once his reflexes had gone, he was a target for anyone with semi decent skills.

    He basically juiced and weight lifted himself into being a HW but all that big lifting and explosive training put massive strains on his body and eventually broke him down.

    10000% credit to him though, he knew what it took to make a lot of money and knew how to sell himself to the casual audience brilliantly.

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    Haye was a skilled fighter. If he was born ten years later he'd be destroying these clowns now. I mean the division is so piss poor people think Tyson Fury is some slick master.

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