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  • #21
    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
    ... "Boxing is an excellent entry point for us into the United States," Skipper explains, "because it's not tied up by the major media companies. We will be, relative to live events, overwhelmingly a fight channel throughout most of 2020 because there aren’t a lot of other available rights that come up. The major sports rights begin to come up in 2021, and we’ll be a player in trying to acquire some of those packages.” (...)

    ... of course DAZN is after the "major sports" in the U.S.

    ... but, until 2021, DAZN will have to support another "financial hemorrhage" in 2020...
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    No they can't stand by that pledge. Why would fighters like Mikey Garcia go there for market rate? You have to pay him $7 mil. And that's another $10 mil card. It's a good card but nowhere near a $10 mil card. People were claiming PBC was overpaying guys at $2 mil a fight. They never had a $10 mil card. Those type of cards are PPV.
    ... PBC is only targeting boxing in the U.S. ...
    ... DAZN claims it's after the "major sports" in the U.S.
    ... what's so complicated???...

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      These people don't even get DAZN. That's what trips me out about these conversations. They don't live in America or any country that gets DAZN.
      What trips me out is how anyone can take you seriously. You're a proven liar and a bet welch. How did those 10 hair extensions you invested in sell? BIG TIME PLAYA..........

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
        You do realize they NEED millions in the United States. Most of their money is tied up in deals with boxers pertaining to the United States.

        Those outside of the U.S. numbers mean nothing. They had millions of foreign subs before they came to the United States.

        I guess you missed the report late last year, also in WSJ, where it was stated that DAZN loses money in every single market - except Japan.

        There are countless articles right now, where DAZN admits on the record they are trying to raise more money right as we speak, 500 million to 1 billion. When a company is trying to raise more money, that could be a very bad sign - if they are unable to secure that money from investors. If they are unable to secure those funds, how much longer do you expect them to be around.... at least in the states?
        What do you mean they mean nothing? 7 mil subs outside the US mean nothing? You do know their cards are shown in all countries with their apps right, so why does only the US count? I said they were on the right track by doubling their sub base in 6 months. Even the biggest companies have debts and look for investors. Netflix just increased there from 12 billion to 15 billion.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          DAZN is the only company losing money. What are you talking about?
          What am I talking about? I'm referencing what the article said. Did you even read it or did you just come here to run your mouth like you always do?



          "DAZN, ESPN, FOX, and Showtime are now paying Tiffany prices for boxing. But they're getting Kay ***elers diamonds...

          Thus, in addition to paying extraordinarily large, cost-ineffective purses to fighters, the networks are now often being pushed into matching name fighters against vastly inferior opponents...

          Now fighters get seven and eight-figure paydays for going in soft. Why should Tyson Fury go in tough more than once every few years when he can make millions of dollars for fighting Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin?...

          There's more boxing available in the United States on television and streaming video today than ever before. One might expect this to lead to competition to put on the best fights possible. But instead, networks and promoters are building their own empires, and fighters are going in soft in a quest for belts that are increasingly meaningless except as marketing tools. Fight fans see developmental fights, stay-busy fights, and sanctioning-body mandatory fights. But too few good fights..."
          Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-05-2020, 03:27 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jonnyc420 View Post
            DAZN will be fine, a biased author needed an article to write. End of story. Plain and simple you put on good fights you will succeed. Hauser has long been trash to read.
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            DAZN has more than eight million subscribers world-wide and just under one million in the U.S., a person familiar with the company said. The closely held company is majority-owned by billionaire Len Blavatnik and run by John Skipper, the former head of Disney's ESPN

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/dazn-gi...se-11575633606


            Oh you of little knowledge.
            Motorcity is a dummy. Lol

            These same PBC shills blasted Hauser when he wrote against PBC and Haymon. If they acknowledge this article perspective then they acknowledge Hauser’s point towards Haymon’s business.

            DAZN Brazil has more than 1.4mil subs on its YouTube Channel.

            All you boxing purists still don’t understand global sports retention. With Ronaldo and Neymar as faces for DAZN do you think this app would attract the world most popular footsy? DAZN lost bid to the Champions League to BT. It was about 800mil vs 1.2 billion. Before the closing bid we saw industry articles of DAZN looking for $500mil. Go figure...

            It’s Americans whom think the Euro or Sterling doesn’t have weight like the American dollar? But but “DAZN USA doe”. If the world gets the AJ and Canelo fight Catalog in Euro or Japanese Yen who gives a fook about the American revenue, especially when PBc cheerleaders say “but but it’s not NFL or the NBA” Blah blah... then go watch those sports and stfu.

            WAR DAZN!
            Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 01-05-2020, 03:30 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
              What do you mean they mean nothing? 7 mil subs outside the US mean nothing? You do know their cards are shown in all countries with their apps right, so why does only the US count? I said they were on the right track by doubling their sub base in 6 months. Even the biggest companies have debts and look for investors. Netflix just increased there from 12 billion to 15 billion.
              What does debt have to do with anything? This is about operating expenses. They need the money for longevity.

              As stated, DAZN loses money in every market except Japan. In other words, they lose a fortune every year.

              Netflix is one of the most profitable and most valued companies in the WORLD. They made over 5.2 billion in PROFIT just in the last quarter of 2019.

              Every company loses money in the early years, but eventually DAZN has to become a profitable company or they will sink just like anyone else.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                What does debt have to do with anything? This is about operating expenses. They need the money for longevity.

                As stated, DAZN loses money in every market except Japan. In other words, they lose a fortune every year.

                Netflix is one of the most profitable and most valued companies in the WORLD. They made over 5.2 billion in PROFIT just in the last quarter of 2019.

                Every company loses money in the early years, but eventually DAZN has to become a profitable company or they will sink just like anyone else.
                Doubling their subs from 4 mil to 8 mil in 6 months puts them on the right track. Your info of losing money in every market is based on 4 mil subs.

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                • #28
                  What's new in this "article", except Stephen Espinoza's tears ofc?
                  Btw, why is Hauser pretending SHO is still in boxing?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    Doubling their subs from 4 mil to 8 mil in 6 months puts them on the right track. Your info of losing money in every market is based on 4 mil subs.
                    PBC ain’t doing well. Their affiliates need every bit of article hits to convince the American fight fan that DAZN isn’t doing well.

                    We are at a turn of a new century where the best boxing promoter is British running business on American soil. Of course Hauser and others would feel defensive of the old defacto shifting differently. The truth is if Matchroom USA continues to do well and establish itself as brand that new gen American boxers might want to go to, and DAZN is accelerating.

                    Blame the LDBC and PBc shills for this effect. The karma came back to bite.

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                    • #30
                      Yea with Showtime it ****** this past year really bad, PBC had there best fights on Fox an I don't see that being fixed anytime soon. The best fights this past year were on the three other platforms DAZN, ESPN, an FOX, so we'll see what happens the next 2 years with DAZN. All I kno is whoever is crying about whichever network was better had the better fights jus shut up an appreciate the sport an the fights being made

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