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  • #11
    ... "Boxing is an excellent entry point for us into the United States," Skipper explains, "because it's not tied up by the major media companies. We will be, relative to live events, overwhelmingly a fight channel throughout most of 2020 because there aren’t a lot of other available rights that come up. The major sports rights begin to come up in 2021, and we’ll be a player in trying to acquire some of those packages.” (...)

    ... of course DAZN is after the "major sports" in the U.S.

    ... but, until 2021, DAZN will have to support another "financial hemorrhage" in 2020...

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    • #12
      Joe Markowski took note of this distortion in the marketplace and, looking ahead to 2020, told writer Sean Nam, “If you don’t move the needle and you demand X amount of money, we’re going to tell you no thanks. We’re not a money tree that needs to be plucked out by fighters and their representatives.”

      But can DAZN stand by this pledge? If it does, ESPN and FOX (with huge corporate empires, multiple platforms, and access to pay-per-view revenue) might cut off the flow of talent to DAZN.
      No they can't stand by that pledge. Why would fighters like Mikey Garcia go there for market rate? You have to pay him $7 mil. And that's another $10 mil card. It's a good card but nowhere near a $10 mil card. People were claiming PBC was overpaying guys at $2 mil a fight. They never had a $10 mil card. Those type of cards are PPV.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
        They went from 4 mil subs to 8 mil subs in 6 months. They're on the right track.
        Where in the world did you get those numbers from? That's not even close.

        You're telling me they have 8 million subs for an app that is basically 90% boxing, but only 1.6 million or so people (according to Hearn himself) watched Joshua-Ruiz rematch on a "worldwide" level.

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        • #14
          DAZN will be fine, a biased author needed an article to write. End of story. Plain and simple you put on good fights you will succeed. Hauser has long been trash to read.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
            Where in the world did you get those numbers from? That's not even close.

            You're telling me they have 8 million subs for an app that is basically 90% boxing, but only 1.6 million or so people (according to Hearn himself) watched Joshua-Ruiz rematch on a "worldwide" level.
            DAZN has more than eight million subscribers world-wide and just under one million in the U.S., a person familiar with the company said. The closely held company is majority-owned by billionaire Len Blavatnik and run by John Skipper, the former head of Disney's ESPN

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/dazn-gi...se-11575633606


            Oh you of little knowledge.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
              Where in the world did you get those numbers from? That's not even close.

              You're telling me they have 8 million subs for an app that is basically 90% boxing, but only 1.6 million or so people (according to Hearn himself) watched Joshua-Ruiz rematch on a "worldwide" level.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
                Where in the world did you get those numbers from? That's not even close.

                You're telling me they have 8 million subs for an app that is basically 90% boxing, but only 1.6 million or so people (according to Hearn himself) watched Joshua-Ruiz rematch on a "worldwide" level.
                These people don't even get DAZN. That's what trips me out about these conversations. They don't live in America or any country that gets DAZN.

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                • #18
                  The current boxing landscape does indeed consist of fighters being paid a lot of money but being put in soft.

                  It can't last if there aren't more big fights getting made. You have to give the fans what they want if you expect to make real profits.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                    The current boxing landscape does indeed consist of fighters being paid a lot of money but being put in soft.

                    It can't last if there aren't more big fights getting made. You have to give the fans what they want if you expect to make real profits.
                    DAZN is the only company losing money. What are you talking about?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
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                      You do realize they NEED millions in the United States. Most of their money is tied up in deals with boxers pertaining to the United States.

                      Those outside of the U.S. numbers mean nothing. They had millions of foreign subs before they came to the United States.

                      I guess you missed the report late last year, also in WSJ, where it was stated that DAZN loses money in every single market - except Japan.

                      There are countless articles right now, where DAZN admits on the record they are trying to raise more money right as we speak, 500 million to 1 billion. When a company is trying to raise more money, that could be a very bad sign - if they are unable to secure that money from investors. If they are unable to secure those funds, how much longer do you expect them to be around.... at least in the states?

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