Comments Thread For: Arum: Wilder is Horrible Boxer, But I've Never Seen One-Punch Power Like That

[_Rexy_]

But AJ combines it all wholistically. As per the sweet science (Like Lennox) ... And this is why he is #1

except when he gets battered and quits against someone with 35% bodyfat.

[Mindgames]

Who else is ko'ing his opponents ?
Last guy to knock Fury down 2x in a fight ?

It's a shltty resume due to a shltty HW era. No resume is impressive.

We're talking about all time. Are any of Wilders knockouts better than even old Georges one punch ko of undefeated Moorer? Lewis of Rahman? Jacksons of never stopped or floored Herol Graham? Theres just too many to mention. Im not saying Wilder aint a great puncher.But different to any ever seen before? No way, sometimes people get knocked out and look like theyre dead. The Ortiz knockout was just a knockout of an older fighter,who'd looked shot previously. Fury? Good knockdown, but hes been floored and hurt before, by non punchers too. The hype is just abit cringey.

[youngjj323]

Roberto Duran? Yea i could see tyson quiting on his stool feb 22nd

[joe strong]

This guy is a ****ing idiot dont even interact with him . Hes clearly got me on block for trying to agree with him, however with LOGIC , and no bias bull**** . A few of these joshua and wilder fans are scrambled in the head .....like dudes going after women only thinking with their **** , that's the best comparison I can make ..some of these cats are nut hugging groupies and this will honestly be my last post on this topic . I will start blocking all these people so I can start talking boxing with proper fans of the SPORT .not " fans " with an agenda SMH these guys arent even fans of the fighters they overly support , they are OBSESSED ....hows about we are grown adults , get a life off the internet

I have never blocked anyone except for a couple of days just to be a d**k but you are on to something here. If you block all the trolls & nuthuggers then you will actually be able to have normal discussions about boxing. There have been some real fanboys & nuthuggers over the years but the Wilder/Joshua nuthuggery is the worst yet. 10 pages of 4 or 5 of the same clowns talking nonsense on every thread.

[Fire4231]

Sam Peter.

I remember genuinely wondering who the smallest man who could beat would be.

He wasn’t that tall either. I think a modern day Canelo or GGG would beat him.

Some of the worst feet I’ve ever seen

Lol... Samuel is a lovable guy. If you ever met him he is one of the nicest fighters yo can meet. After is fights would take pictures with fans in the stands. What’s disheartening is he is still fighting and suffering brutal Knock outs.

You wanted to root for him but his technique was so bad you new he was on borrowed time. But in all fairness it took Vitali to hand him his first loss. Hope Sam retires while he still has something left.

[Claude Palle]

I wonder what him and his team thinks/say when they watch tape of him during camps

I can't say I see any improvements. Just him waiting to unleash the Devil.

They should definitely focus on the jab more. His reach is 83" inches so a better one/two would work wonders. The Breazeale fight was a great example. Blind them with the left and then boom, lights out!

[Idunnoshet]

This guy is a ****ing idiot dont even interact with him . Hes clearly got me on block for trying to agree with him, however with LOGIC , and no bias bull**** . A few of these joshua and wilder fans are scrambled in the head .....like dudes going after women only thinking with their **** , that's the best comparison I can make ..some of these cats are nut hugging groupies and this will honestly be my last post on this topic . I will start blocking all these people so I can start talking boxing with proper fans of the SPORT .not " fans " with an agenda SMH these guys arent even fans of the fighters they overly support , they are OBSESSED ....hows about we are grown adults , get a life off the internet

You quoted me . But I don't have you blocked so I'll assume you were referring to the poster I responded to.

[Fire4231]

Iam sorry but did u just compare a prime Roy jones to deontay wilder??iam sorry but are u insane ?? Roy was unorthodox and relied on speed and reflexes more than anything else,but the man could box on levels far beyond wilder ....I mean if they fought tomorrow roy would prolly outbox wilder for 30 seconds til he got stopped lol but in serious I see what u are saying but roy had way more skills than deontay .......wilder has a pawing jab ( which was decent in stiverne 1 that's about it ) and a massive right hand ,athletitism and patience .....roy had it all he was simply unorthodox and chose to rely on that and speed for too long and when he reflex slowed that was that .....roy was a once in a lifetime type talent....while wilder has once in a lifetime power there is levels to this ****

Bro I appreciate the commentary. We both have an amazing appreciation for all things Roy Jones.

The only thing I disagree with is your outrage on the comparison.

The point is neither fighter was text book and both had a style that was only possible because of their exceptional gifts.

Even if random Fighter A had Roy’s Ring IQ, without Roy’s other worldly speed and reflexes he would have a much shorter career fighting as Roy did. This why it’s hard for Roy to teach what he did. No one else is that gifted.

Even if Random Fighter A had GOOD reflexes they would not be able to fight like Roy for as long as he did. Roy’s style depended on 10ths of a seconds for safety. And when his reflex’s started to slow we saw how dangerous of a game Roy had been playing for the life of a career.

In the same vein, Wilder didn’t have his other worldly knock out power, he would have several losses at this point.

And although he doesn’t have incredible Ring IQ, what is amazing is he is extremely Self-Aware and disciplined. He is humbled in understanding his limitations and works with some amount of genius with in the context of his late start.

Say what you want about the Wilder draw with Fury, but even before the KO, Wilder was winning rounds in a way Vlad could not against a very challenging common foe. I had him winning more than two rounds. Early on Tyson was not doing as well.

Lol...Since you went there, we all know if both fighters were the same size Roy would destroy Wilder. Maybe in his absolute prime Roy KO’s him easy.

Where I disagree is this, if Roy goes up to Heavyweight to fight today’s Wilder at the time he fought John Ruiz... well he probably gets slept. Ruiz was slow as molasses, lacked heavyweight power and buzzed Roy in that fight.

You may not like to hear it but what are the chances Roy at that age would not get caught by that Wilder right hand? Wilder is more athletic, faster and that Hammer of Wilder has no mercy.

Clearly Roy is one of the greatest fighters to ever lace them up and my personal favorite but there is a reality to this game we can’t overlook. Great commentary bro!!!

[Claude Palle]

[QUOTE=NORMNEALON;20302010]

How much metal does wilder have in his right hand and where ?? I know he has had a few surgeries , but I didnt know they put pins in his hand ...but the reason I ask is that depending on what they put in there and where that may not actually help his power depending on the surgery it could actually damage his hands and make it harder to use ....iam not disagreeing iam just curious where and for what injury was the metal placed....was it pins , screws , plate ?? Its definately interesting , just curious the details

Pins are inserted for stability purposes. Many MMA fighters have pins and rods in their feet and legs. It is a detriment not an advantage. A fighter would certainly prefer an uninjured, strong hand or foot over one that has been broken on numerous occasions.


Wilder (37-0, 36 KOs), 30, of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, is almost surely out for the rest of 2016. This is at least the third time Wilder, a devastating puncher, has broken his right hand. After a first-round knockout of Travis Allen in 2009 (Wilder's seventh professional fight), Wilder had right hand surgery during which pins were inserted to stabilize it.

[Robi13]

Yea Butter bean was the best ever himself ? Like power is the proof one is great at boxing . Lol

It’s more the other way around, the fact that he gets into position to be able to use that power is a skill in itself... what good does it do you if you have powers and can’t land? Wilder has knocked down all of his opponents... 100% knockdown esté in over 40 fights and has knocked out 95+ % of his opponents... that’s not a fluke