The haters have hated for 5 years and Wilder is still the champion.

[Richard]

Wilder has been the world champion of the entire sport of boxing for five years now. The unified NYSAC/IBU/NSC heavyweight champion of the world, tracing back over a hundred years. He's made ten successful defenses and next month he attempts to become the lineal world heavyweight champion as well.

Is this why he is so hated? Nobody expected him to come this far, so everybody feels ****** for assuming he would fail?

Sure the trolls will cry and say he's protected or hasn't fought top fighters, but Boxrec proves that's complete bull****. Until recently, he was #1 in the world in the computerized rankings and even now he is #2.

If Wilder knocks out Fury and becomes the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, what will the haters say then?

And Teddy agrees 😉

[BoxingFan85]

He's top 3 surely but shouldn't have been undefeated.

[OnlytheTruth]

His one title is a merger of the three most prestigious championships in boxing history, going back over a hundred years to the IBU in 1910.

and how many people actually give a ***************? Probably a handful of people on here. That's like me claiming that Great Britain is the most prestigious country because of the British Empire being the best one in History. But it doesn't mean that at all. What history actually teaches us is the mistakes that people made before. If the NYSAC and IBU isn't around today, it didn't work.

Not all belts are created equal. Parker's WBO title isn't a fully recognized title. Martin's IBF title is a splintering of the WBA title. You have to unify the WBA, IBF and WBO just to piece the WBA back together again and be the equivalent of WBA champions of the past before the WBA split into 3.

I don't recognise the WBC as the most prestigious. So, its now a FACT that the WBC isn't a fully recognised as the most prestigious title. So when you say something isn't 'fully recognised', one person can disagree to make that true. I recognise the WBO as one of the four titles, if you decide not to, then yes, its not fully recognised.

Let me guess, you're thinking 'Who cares about this guys opinion?', well I say 'right back at you'.

Who is the best tennis player? The men's champion? The women's champion? The wheelchair tennis champion? The 12 year old and under tennis champion? The college tennis champion? If one division is open to EVERYONE, and you're the best of EVERYONE, you're the champion of the sport.

I don't care who is the best tennis player. But there aren't weight classes in Tennis are there, you fool.

If the best Tennis player suddenly has a major accident and becomes paralysed and competes in the Wheelchair tennis, you are saying that being handicapped means you can't be the best? So now you have a thing against equality of handicapped people?

What if Wilder has a sex change? Does that mean you'll abandon your boyfriend?

Wilder is NOT the best. Not even close. Fury and Joshua are far more complete boxers than Wilder. Wilder is a right hand, with a title.

Katie Taylor is a better boxer than Wilder.

Its fucking dickheads like you that can set humanity back 50 years with your opinions.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Chisora or Whyte would be Wilder`s top career best win. laughable.

[Richard]

Chisora or Whyte would be Wilder`s top career best win. laughable.

I think his first fight with Ortiz tops all them though.

[REDEEMER]

I think his first fight with Ortiz tops all them though.

Whyte is more proven then Ortiz . Chisora is slightly below Ortiz stylistically for Wilder but posters on here act like Ortiz is some unbeatable ATG when his best win is Jennings years ago who is not as good as Chisora is now . There’s also some shady business in that first fight but whatever . Ha

[Richard]

Whyte is more proven then Ortiz . Chisora is slightly below Ortiz stylistically for Wilder but posters on here act like Ortiz is some unbeatable ATG when his best win is Jennings years ago who is not as good as Chisora is now . There’s also some shady business in that first fight but whatever . Ha

Maybe but I still feel Ortiz looks the better fighter overall.

[REDEEMER]

Maybe but I still feel Ortiz looks the better fighter overall.

Fighting Dan Martz and Hammer , Kaufman ? Sure but when has he actually looked top 10 guy ? Can’t be his Wilder fight because he stopped moving after the 5th round ?

Edit : Note to posters : This is why you cannot mock anyone’s opponents being a Wilder fan and think his best wins won’t be brought up . Ha

[Richard]

Fighting Dan Martz and Hammer , Kaufman ? Sure but when has he actually looked top 10 guy ? Can’t be his Wilder fight because he stopped moving after the 5th round ?

Hypothetical I know but I reckon a prime Ortiz v a prime Whyte Ortiz wins.

Whyte whilst being a good fighter never has me excited like Ortiz does.Just a natural observation when Ive seen both fighters fight.Ortiz looks physically and technically better than Whyte.

Hence I think Ortiz problem was he started professional so late in boxing eg first fight at 30.

As noted apart from Fury/Wilder/Joshua and the upcomer Daniel Dubois I would rate Ortiz as one of the best.Albeit he is ageing but I was impressed with the way he fought against Wilder in both fights even if he did loose.

[REDEEMER]

Hypothetical I know but I reckon a prime Ortiz v a prime Whyte Ortiz wins.

Whyte whilst being a good fighter never has me excited like Ortiz does.Just a natural observation when Ive seen both fighters fight.Ortiz looks physically and technically better than Whyte.

Hence I think Ortiz problem was he started professional so late in boxing eg first fight at 30.

As noted apart from Fury/Wilder/Joshua and the upcomer Daniel Dubois I would rate Ortiz as one of the best.Albeit he is ageing but I was impressed with the way he fought against Wilder in both fights even if he did loose.

Ortiz didn’t look good at all and Wilder still looked worse then the last fight they had .

Ortiz was much lighter on his feet and set up his shots far better in the first fight but he doesn’t have Whyte persistence and stamina ,there’s literally no fight I would say he had that shows he’s better then Whyte .

Whyte against a back foot fighter could be a very bad night for Wilder because Whyte is a top body puncher , Ortiz has literally been in maybe 2 decent fights outside Wilder so not sure how you are gaging quality ,the only knock on Whyte is he comes in overweight at times and we can’t assume he does it with Wilder .