Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia On Spence Loss: So What! It's Like It Never Happened

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  • CaptainWalrus
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    #71
    Mikey missed his opportunity @135. Maybe weight was the issue? 18 months ago I would of picked him over Loma, Haney, Lopez & Tank.

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    • !! Shawn
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      #72
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      He tried, he failed. I give him props for trying. Everyone knew he was going to lose. I even bet him to lose by TKO.

      M more concerned now if he even wants to box and be GREAT anymore??? He know reminds me of Gamboa.
      Did he actually try though? Maybe for a round before he went into survival mode.

      It was slightly embarrassing.

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      • champion4ever
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        #73
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        Did he not also move up to face Lipinets instead of fighting Linares at 135?
        I'm not sure about that one but he definitely ditched Loma by fighting Erroll Spence. It was a face saving move in order to fool fans into believing that he was brave and courageous but nothing about fighting Spence was courageous.

        Fighting Spence was both a cowardly and foolish move because he refused to try and compete with him. Like he said “Losses are a part of boxing. You lost. So what? I fought the best guy in the division and moved up two weight classes Why should I be sad and crying?"

        Which tells me that it was nothing more than a face saving move to duck Lomachenko. However, if he would have lost to a man his own size who is just as skilled or more skilled than himself, then he wouldn't be able deal with the loss so graciously.

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          #74
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          Did he actually try though? Maybe for a round before he went into survival mode.

          It was slightly embarrassing.
          No, Mikey didn't try. He refused. Which is why I have a huge problem with his statement. If he wasn't going to compete then why move up?

          It was nothing more than a face saving move in order to avoid fighting Lomachenko. It's like "Look at me I am fighting a much larger and stronger fighter than Loma".

          No that move made Mikey look far from being brave. It made him look more like a coward because he refused to try to fight Spence and plus he ducked the best fighter and competition in and around his won weight division.

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            #75
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            I'm not sure about that one but he definitely ditched Loma by fighting Erroll Spence. It was a face saving move in order to fool fans into believing that he was brave and courageous but nothing about fighting Spence was courageous.

            Fighting Spence was both a cowardly and foolish move because he refused to try and compete with him. Like he said “Losses are a part of boxing. You lost. So what? I fought the best guy in the division and moved up two weight classes Why should I be sad and crying?"

            Which tells me that it was nothing more than a face saving move to duck Lomachenko. However, if he would have lost to a man his own size who is just as skilled or more skilled than himself, then he wouldn't be able deal with the loss so graciously.
            I'm about 90% sure that the WBC ordered Linares/Garcia at 135 and Garcia dropped the belt and moved up to face Lipinets. Maybe someone else can confirm?

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              #76
              Originally posted by _Rexy_
              I'm about 90% sure that the WBC ordered Linares/Garcia at 135 and Garcia dropped the belt and moved up to face Lipinets. Maybe someone else can confirm?
              It's probably true. That's why he has one the lousiest resume's in boxing today. It's because he is afraid of taking on real risks and challenges.

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                #77
                Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas
                It happened and most knew what was going to happen - it never felt like one of those real challenges in a P4P type moving up in weight to test himself.

                He never even acclimated himself to WW like a lot of fighters who are serious about moving up... he just showed up to give Spence some shine for the greater good of the PBC, that's what it always felt like. I feel like a lot of hardcore fans wanted that platform for Spence so a lot of Mikey's previous track record went overlooked...the guy has been on/off a lot of his career involve din lawsuits and the rest. I wanted Spence to make the next push too, but it felt very forced and not genuine.

                It only feels like it didn't happen now because Spence has not come out looking that great himself either after Porter and the wreck.

                I think Vargas is a good fight though, Jessie is about as honest as they come so I think Mikey will have to work and really show something to win. For some reason I just don't trust or believe a lot of what Mikey says but I'll hold off and watch this fight, I really want to be wrong in my opinion on him.
                I don’t know why people continue to say Spence didn’t look good against Porter. NOONE looks good against Porter. Porter has his own claim to being an elite boxer within the division and when elite boxers face other elite boxers a close decision happens. It’s extremely rare that when two elite boxers face themselves there’s a blow out. Additionally, one of the elite boxers is going to suffer a loss. The greatest of all time SRR and Ali lost to elite level competition many times. They snapped back and redeemed themselves but no one questions as to whether or not they were the greatest. Today’s boxing fan expects blow outs against elite competition then trashes or is “disappointed” when the outcome is what reality has been all along; that elite facing the elite is a competitive match.

                Maybe it’s the instant gratification generation

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                  Lol yea if I was Mikey I'd be acting like that didn't happen to.
                  That was funny.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
                    He didn't try. He collected a check. That's the problem.
                    Nah, when he couldn't get in & was getting hit he realized he was in for a long night. Mikey showed good defense in that fight which people aren't talking about cuz if he didn't use his D he would of been stopped.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Tonylove
                      Slow sluggish and tired?
                      stop it! you got beat by a bigger and better fighter just admit it.

                      Mikey I’m a fan you are on of the most skilled fighters in the sport but stop with The excuses.

                      I do think you have a ton of heart so please let that rain through.
                      He didn't really make excuses & he had the heart to get in there.

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