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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
    they locked in with each other because they got tired of playing Joshua's (or hearn's) games. He tried to play diva and also not offer what would be considered an fair split (or even share what the percentage split would be) so they both moved on and are both ranked above Joshua despite belts. Especially since they're both undefeated and weren't ko'd by some fat 20-1 underdog. There is no fear of joshua, just a lack of patience for their games. Both wilder and fury are bigger threats to each other style wise than Joshua. For wilder, Joshua is easier to hit and has a weaker chin than fury. For fury, wilder is a harder and faster puncher with a greater chance of ko'ing him than Joshua. As far as who was stiverne, he was still a world champion which is more than what ruiz was when he whooped Joshua's ass.
    110 million is not a fair purse ...that’s 55 million per fight.
    Joshua got beat and he avenged it straight away and again has 3 belts and the gold coin stops with him.
    Wilder turned down his career highest purse to fight breazeale for 3 million.
    All boxers lose some make excuses some don’t.
    Joshua didn’t and now he has his crown back.
    Wilder was schooled by fury ..yeah the same fury that was nearly beaten by Otto wallin in his last fight lol.
    GTFOH with your waffle

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dazzlertheboxer View Post
      Gee wouldn't want you as my promoter. Fury and Wilder need each other to do the numbers. Joshua does the numbers without them and then some.
      okay fine then don’t fight them then. Stay over there and count your tickets and cheap PPVs. Stop pretending you want to come over here or that we should care what you do

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
        110 million is not a fair purse ...that’s 55 million per fight.
        Joshua got beat and he avenged it straight away and again has 3 belts and the gold coin stops with him.
        Wilder turned down his career highest purse to fight breazeale for 3 million.
        All boxers lose some make excuses some don’t.
        Joshua didn’t and now he has his crown back.
        Wilder was schooled by fury ..yeah the same fury that was nearly beaten by Otto wallin in his last fight lol.
        GTFOH with your waffle
        see, you're of the simpleton mindset that fighters should just take a blind offer without knowing what the cut is. Pacquiao was oferred a career high pay day of 60 mil by Floyd but turned it down because it wasn't a fair cut. When the fight eventually happened, pac made significantly more than what was originally oferred. Same exact thing happened with ggg regarding his fight vs canelo. Joshua wanted to take the lions share because he thought he was the man, then he got sparked by a fat troll and now has lost his luster. His boring John ruiz style to win a rematch has done very little to enhance his standing. He fought like a coward. He's considered the #3 hw behind wilder and fury no matter how many of you lame uk groupies d1ck ride him. Oh, and for the record, Joshua did make excuses for his loss to ruiz and for being a weak minded quitter. Just see below:

        During an appearance on Radio 5 Live, Joshua said: "I had some issue with my health which I was going through for a long time.

        "I didn't know what was wrong with me. I felt so tired and drained and thought it must be down to training.

        "In the changing room before the fight I got a bucket of ice and was putting my head in it thinking 'why do I feel so tired?'

        "The responsibilities of being world champion are difficult. All that stuff, feeling so tired, dealing with obligations.*

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        • #34
          I wonder what the fight needs to sell for it to be profitable as you have two promotions that need to be paid and this isn’t a mega fight like Pacquiao/Floyd or Tyson/Lewis.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Froch_uppercut View Post
            So...the 100 million dollars Wilder ducked was "unfair"? SMH.
            Was it 50/50 with a 60/40 loser request rematch?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              see, you're of the simpleton mindset that fighters should just take a blind offer without knowing what the cut is. Pacquiao was oferred a career high pay day of 60 mil by Floyd but turned it down because it wasn't a fair cut. When the fight eventually happened, pac made significantly more than what was originally oferred. Same exact thing happened with ggg regarding his fight vs canelo. Joshua wanted to take the lions share because he thought he was the man, then he got sparked by a fat troll and now has lost his luster. His boring John ruiz style to win a rematch has done very little to enhance his standing. He fought like a coward. He's considered the #3 hw behind wilder and fury no matter how many of you lame uk groupies d1ck ride him. Oh, and for the record, Joshua did make excuses for his loss to ruiz and for being a weak minded quitter. Just see below:

              During an appearance on Radio 5 Live, Joshua said: "I had some issue with my health which I was going through for a long time.

              "I didn't know what was wrong with me. I felt so tired and drained and thought it must be down to training.

              "In the changing room before the fight I got a bucket of ice and was putting my head in it thinking 'why do I feel so tired?'

              "The responsibilities of being world champion are difficult. All that stuff, feeling so tired, dealing with obligations.*
              so a complete ****eit like yourself would cut off his nose to spite his face...it’s proven that Joshua is bigger draw period , wilder struggles to break 300k ppv is not known outside the states and your wingeing because he don’t know the cut ...The facts are if your a 40% draw you get paid a 40% purse and Joshua is the 60% draw and gets the 60% purse..and wilder is confident of winning and upping his value in future defences.
              Maybe he is not so confident of beating Joshua that’s why he turned down a career changing purse and stuck to the easy pickings
              Only a f@ckwit like yourself would try and defend wilder in turning a pot of gold down.
              You have to be ******ed to even try and defend it the ducking.
              What a moondog you are

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ricky12 View Post
                Great post.Respect to you for doing so well in your life .Hence action speaks louder than words.
                Thanks man ! Folks have the right to get paid for what they bring to the table. I was a huge Mayweather fan, but still able to recognize that just because Manny would get “more than he ever got before” doesn’t make it a fair deal to him. Even if it was double his previous high. Triple. Quadruple. He should get paid proportionate to what he generates. same with Wilder. All this talk of his past purses, his past gates, his past attendance, is silly. Because despite whatever those numbers are, this is the fight the world is talkin about.

                I hope they find a way to make it happen. On DAZN cuz I’m a subscriber. Lol

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                  so a complete ****eit like yourself would cut off his nose to spite his face...it’s proven that Joshua is bigger draw period , wilder struggles to break 300k ppv is not known outside the states and your wingeing because he don’t know the cut ...The facts are if your a 40% draw you get paid a 40% purse and Joshua is the 60% draw and gets the 60% purse..and wilder is confident of winning and upping his value in future defences.
                  Maybe he is not so confident of beating Joshua that’s why he turned down a career changing purse and stuck to the easy pickings
                  Only a f@ckwit like yourself would try and defend wilder in turning a pot of gold down.
                  You have to be ******ed to even try and defend it the ducking.
                  What a moondog you are
                  You're either too ****** to comprehend the truth, or too blinded by your man love for Joshua. I just have you 2 perfect if examples of B sides who turned down a career high pay day because they knew that a fight with them would be worth more than what they were being offerred. That's exactly what wound up happening with both pac and ggg. You're just making excuses because Joshua is left out in the cold to face C level UK opposition. To say that nobody outside of the US knows wilder is even more ridiculous. Every boxing fan in the uk knows who wilder is and he'd give Joshua the biggest #s of his career. Then to infer that he's scared of joshua is even funnier. Again, fat ass Andy ruiz knocked him the fk out. And his weak cowardly display in the rematch doesn't erase that. End of the day, the 2 beat heavyweights in the world will be going at it again while Joshua can pick some lame rematch with Whyte if he wants to.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tokon View Post
                    Was it 50/50 with a 60/40 loser request rematch?
                    It's not important. Wilder does not bring even close to 50% of the commercial value AJ does, he just doesn't sell tickets.

                    Whatever criteria you use, Joshua brings more:

                    1. Belts
                    2. Views
                    3. Attendance
                    4. Fans

                    Every single boxing match is assessed on one or more of these things.

                    Wilder's attitude towards a unification fight is not even defendable. HE WONT EVEN ANSWER THE %$#&ING PHONE.

                    What more evidence do these Wilder morons need?

                    1. He won't answer phone calls, e mails, or have a meeting.
                    2. He has ADMITTED they're begging him to make the fight
                    3. He has turned down 100 Million dollars plus.

                    GTFOOH with your idiocy.

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                    • #40
                      Wilder is a disgrace for boxing
                      But with that trash of the dunes his stock has risen

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