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  • #61
    Originally posted by historian larry View Post
    Canelo was a unified/ring champ and p4p#9 not ready weight issues

    and Manny was p4p#2 and WBO champ..he threw with both arms the entire fight man...Please kill these excuses... injured

    Hell Thurman was injured before and after the damn fight with Manny is that an excuse??
    NOPE

    Canelo fought Trout before Mayweather Larry...rememeber? You do dont you. Do you know Canelo weighed in at 172lbs for that fight? The fight before that 160 with Lopez. So you know Floyd fought him at a CW right? Knowing Canelo had weight issues. And he was Younger and less experienced but still a game guy. You dont see nothing wrong with a 20lb or more drop in weight advantage? You dont do you? And honestly its Canelos team fault not Floyd. But dont think that its perfectly fine when you bash Manny DLH for same exact shlt. And im not so on the weight as i am the experience part of it. He wasnt ready and that much weight loss is ******.

    Just because Manny had a hurt arm doesn't mean the arm is broken LArry. Of course he can throw wit it. Its a fight. He has to. Its painful. But thats what fighters do. Is he 100%....NO so because he isnt...You give Floyd credit. OK. Its the mentality that allows you to think this way.

    Thurman was 100% cleared and ready on fight night. And had no excuses after the fight . I saw the conference after the fight. Never complained. Only thing that was against Thurman was inactivity imo. Lopez fight he looked ok but not so impressive. Manny fight he looked ok but this is Manny Pacquiao not Lopez.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
      NOPE

      Canelo fought Trout before Mayweather Larry...rememeber? You do dont you. Do you know Canelo weighed in at 172lbs for that fight? The fight before that 160 with Lopez. So you know Floyd fought him at a CW right? Knowing Canelo had weight issues. And he was Younger and less experienced but still a game guy. You dont see nothing wrong with a 20lb or more drop in weight advantage? You dont do you? And honestly its Canelos team fault not Floyd. But dont think that its perfectly fine when you bash Manny DLH for same exact shlt. And im not so on the weight as i am the experience part of it. He wasnt ready and that much weight loss is ******.

      Just because Manny had a hurt arm doesn't mean the arm is broken LArry. Of course he can throw wit it. Its a fight. He has to. Its painful. But thats what fighters do. Is he 100%....NO so because he isnt...You give Floyd credit. OK. Its the mentality that allows you to think this way.

      Thurman was 100% cleared and ready on fight night. And had no excuses after the fight . I saw the conference after the fight. Never complained. Only thing that was against Thurman was inactivity imo. Lopez fight he looked ok but not so impressive. Manny fight he looked ok but this is Manny Pacquiao not Lopez.
      Manny signed a paper to say nothing was wrong with him and fit to fight.

      Never mentioned an injury straight after the fight actually said Floyd moved to much I couldn't hit him.

      Claimed an injury Post Fight interview after the dressing room meeting between Team Pac.

      Had surgery.

      Thurman fit to fight , injured hand in early round , mentioned it post fight.

      Thurman had surgery.

      Its very much same isnt it, only Manny was injured and Thurman made it up, according to you that is. You guys and your bias is a joke.

      Apply the same criterias to all fighters you just curve ball around your favorites.




      Yes, Keith Thurman, that means you.

      “If you look at his last few fights, he’s really faded in each one of them. And I do feel like he possibly has an injury that has not healed,” the aforementioned trainer, Freddie Roach, told Boxing Scene.

      “He usually relies on that big overhand right and lately he hasn’t had any success with it. He sets it up with a pawing jab and then goes with the big overhand right and his timing is just way off right now, especially in the last three fights. You look at him in his earlier career and he was knocking guys out with that shot. The last three fights he’s not knocking out anybody with nothing.”

      https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao...is-way--140670


      Last edited by Roadblock; 12-28-2019, 02:10 AM.

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      • #63
        You're putting Kovalev in your argument? Lol

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
          This post is ******. You give Pacquiao credit for fighting Cotto at a catchweight of 145 pounds but don't want to give Floyd credit for beating Canelo at 152 pounds. We all saw what Canelo ended up doing to Cotto so Canelo was certainly the bigger and more dangerous opponent. Stop trying to change the criteria for the fighter you like.

          Hold them to the same standard.
          Lol. What a dummy. you do realize most whom are quiet about catchweights don’t mention or type “catchweight” wins. Think that thru. The reason why I state PAC vs Cotto was a catchweight is because Cotto had the slight disadvantage.

          However, again, Pac came from Flyweight you dummy. Floyd went from 130 to 152 for Canelo. Use the numbers! What do you mean we all saw what Canelo did to Cotto?

          You dummies still don’t realize why Floyd diehards are idiots. You can’t hype fighters being “Easy” for a catchweight and then the same fighter doesn’t do the “challenge” again for the biggest pays in the business with a mere 1lb from 154-155 (Cotto Lineal for Floyd). Or 3lbs from 152 to 155 for Canelo’s Lineal? You can’t explain this other than Floyd being a puss’e for those rematches to OBTAIN the green strap at Middleweight as well as the Lineal to be a 6 division champ for...

          “Easy fights.”

          Ffs. Lol

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BoomBapTrap View Post
            Oh bro, every fight Manny took was practically a huge risk!

            De La Hoya
            Margarito
            Cotto
            Thurman

            Legit he was always the underdog. But that’s what made him special. He didn’t DUCK ANYBODY. He fought all guys in their prime, and retired most in spectacular KO/TKO fashion.


            He wasn’t like Floyd who would wait until all the advantages were on his side and then impose ridiculous requests to fight them. But Floyd was smart he was building his “business” with that “0”. Manny was a straight up warrior.
            Different type of fighter.
            I still remember when all the experts said that Pacquiao would get ran over by ODLH, Cotto and Marg.

            Trying to diminish Pac's record makes people look ******. Lets ask ourselves this question. Who is retired and who is still active.

            Pac just fought a Top WW and beat him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
              I still remember when all the experts said that Pacquiao would get ran over by ODLH, Cotto and Marg.

              Trying to diminish Pac's record makes people look ******. Lets ask ourselves this question. Who is retired and who is still active.

              Pac just fought a Top WW and beat him.
              Well Thurman was suffering injuries that made us fans bored of for his return. And his long return brought back a weird Thurman. Some fighters got more grit with injuries. For example some like Toradol...which I’m sure wasn’t a problem with in-house Top Rank fights..

              Plus, Pac vs Thurman didn’t even have VADA testing... just so you know..

              There’s rumour that Oscar weighed 147 on fight night against PAC. Oscar weighed more than 165 against Floyd...

              Edwin Valero said he told Oscar to shape up and train for Pac which he didn’t. So here are the facts:

              Oscar weighed 145 on the scale.
              Rehydrated to 147... yeah right..
              Didn’t train...

              Oscar was only there for the paycheck. In these years as well his personal life started kicking off to the crazy one and new life with *******...

              Pacquiao was an idiot to tell ESPN that Olympic style testing hindered performance. Nobody ever brings that up. Lol

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              • #67
                Originally posted by davef View Post
                Quick question here but let's say Floyd lost the first fight with Castillo for arguments sake ok? But was gifted the win alright?

                So If he is a coward cherry picker why in the hell did he risk facing Castillo again when he already escaped with a W?? are those the actions of a coward cherry picker? To go back and fight a guy that already beat you and risk your future career earnings when he could have just walked away

                Why doesn't manny face Jeff horn again? Is he a coward now?a cherry picker? Which action is it?
                He ran and safely boxed his way to a win the second fight.

                Gayweather is insecure about himself, that's the only reason he took the rematch, because fans still call it a robbery.

                Horn is still being promoted by Arum. Pac wants nothing to do with Arum not Horn. Huge difference.

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                • #68
                  KTFO6 proves that Pac took the riskiest fights.

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                  • #69
                    When you're the goddamn king of boxing there ain't much to call a risk to you.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post
                      He ran and safely boxed his way to a win the second fight.

                      Gayweather is insecure about himself, that's the only reason he took the rematch, because fans still call it a robbery.

                      Horn is still being promoted by Arum. Pac wants nothing to do with Arum not Horn. Huge difference.
                      You guys have the most lame excuse ever invented, only children can have such imagination.

                      Manny fights whomever he wants if you dont believe that youre a fool, those he dont want to fight like Crawford Horn etc is his choice.

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