Comments Thread For: Joshua Trainer: If Ortiz Had Been 28 - He Would Have Beat Wilder!

[Hyp2403]

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Same thing I said about Klitschko and he actually DROPPED Aj lmao. Man this is a bunch of b.s smh. Aj is scared to death of wilder! If Ortiz is such an easy fight then tell your fighter to fight him?? Funny how it’s the trainer talking but not Aj lol

[KillaMane26]

How him being younger gonna change anything? Wilder would lose every round then land that right hand

[hugh grant]

Ortiz has never been any good. When ortiz was 28, wla d ruled world. Ortiz never has

[Mindgames]

Since u speak that way who has aj beat honestly outside a tired and just fight for a check ........??????? Please put his name so I don’t have to spell it cause we all know what’s coming. Just like u say Ortiz is a nobody we can all say Ruiz is a nobody only difference is wilder won both fights aj lost the first and had to fight a piss Ruiz the second time around

Never said Ortiz was a nobody, but Wilders cv is two wins over an old sick fighter, especially if we're gonna diminish Wlad. So we've got AJ wins over an unbeaten Whyte on the way up, unbeaten Parker, at least an in shape Wlad, Povetkin and Ruiz. Yeah AJ lost to Ruiz, only difference is Wilder hasn't fought Ruiz, or any of the guys listed, so we don't really know how hed do against someone who isnt old, or can punch. We know hes vulnerable, like AJ, because Sconiers nearly put him away an he was knocked out in the amateurs. My point is we can take just about any fighters record an trash it, diminish it. Wilder fans have no room to trash AJs really.

[doom_specialist]

Never said Ortiz was a nobody, but Wilders cv is two wins over an old sick fighter, especially if we're gonna diminish Wlad. So we've got AJ wins over an unbeaten Whyte on the way up, unbeaten Parker, at least an in shape Wlad, Povetkin and Ruiz. Yeah AJ lost to Ruiz, only difference is Wilder hasn't fought Ruiz, or any of the guys listed, so we don't really know how hed do against someone who isnt old, or can punch. We know hes vulnerable, like AJ, because Sconiers nearly put him away an he was knocked out in the amateurs. My point is we can take just about any fighters record an trash it, diminish it. Wilder fans have no room to trash AJs really.

Fans of either fighter shouldn't attempt trashing resumes because they both suck. Joshua has hyper old Klitschko and decent Parker, and Wilder has hyper old Ortiz and Tyson Fury. Those are the best opponents of either guy's career. Nothing to write home about on either side.

[FreezeIzGawd]

At 28 did he have a STRONGER CHIN.......

BECAUSE HE GOT KOed.....

At the age he is at he can outbox Wilder, most fighters can, but who can withstand that right hand....

That’s the point actually

[O.G]

I find it funny, whenever a Bum squad fanboy tries to castigate another fighter's resume. Have you forgotten that Wilder's spent most of his pro run fighting tomato cans? AJ beat Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte and Parker in a 6 year career, with 24 fights. Wilder beat Ortiz in an 11 year career, with 43. What made you think this would be a good idea?


Andy Ruiz is better than some people give him credit for, and much better than most of the guys on Wilder's record. A motivated Ruiz could give anybody problems. Let's not forget that Wilder got stunned by Eric Molina, and Fury nearly got stopped by Otto Wallin. This is heavyweight boxing, everyone's vulnerable.


Wilder got saved by the bell against Harold Sconiers, and Fury has been dropped by Pajkic and Steve Cunningham. You think either of them would take the shots AJ did in the 1st match, much better? Haters kept calling AJ robotic, but when he comes in and puts on a boxing masterclass, all of a sudden he's a runner.

Amazing how people call that a masterclass but when Mayweather fought the same way,they complained about it

[Mindgames]

Fans of either fighter shouldn't attempt trashing resumes because they both suck. Joshua has hyper old Klitschko and decent Parker, and Wilder has hyper old Ortiz and Tyson Fury. Those are the best opponents of either guy's career. Nothing to write home about on either side.

Well its either that or look at it that this is the best of the bunch we've got right now. It just makes me laugh to see the bias of some of these fans when their own guy is just as easy to pick holes in.

[techliam]

Fans of either fighter shouldn't attempt trashing resumes because they both suck. Joshua has hyper old Klitschko and decent Parker, and Wilder has hyper old Ortiz and Tyson Fury. Those are the best opponents of either guy's career. Nothing to write home about on either side.

Why would you put Fury on Wilder’s resume?

At the very very best, it was a lucky draw

[Mindgames]

At 28 did he have a STRONGER CHIN.......

BECAUSE HE GOT KOed.....

At the age he is at he can outbox Wilder, most fighters can, but who can withstand that right hand....

That’s the point actually

At a younger age you almost always have better punch resistance. Thats one of the reasons Ray Leonard withstood Tommy Hearns in hes 20s and got blown away by Camacho in hes mid late 30s.The other reason os reflexes. You just dont get hit the same because you react quicker. Not to say i think Ortiz would've beat Wilder for certain, but obviously he'd have had a much better chance.