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  • #81
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    Why would you put Fury on Wilder’s resume?

    At the very very best, it was a lucky draw
    Because he fought him. Why wouldn't I? Isn't a resume a track record of the work experience?
    Last edited by doom_specialist; 12-26-2019, 03:44 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
      Because he fought him. Why wouldn't I? Isn't a resume a track record of the work experience?
      Sure, it’s a valid definition

      But I guess it’s important to differentiate those who use resume as a list of ‘wins’ as a tool of comparison between fighters, and those like yourself who use resume simply as a list of who they’ve fought

      The difference being a resume usually highlights the positive aspects, not the negative ones like losses and draws

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      • #83
        Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
        And had he fought Wilder he would have been more brutally knocked out and much quicker.
        But wilder was too scared to fight him ... so a big no

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        • #84
          Originally posted by techliam View Post
          Sure, it’s a valid definition

          But I guess it’s important to differentiate those who use resume as a list of ‘wins’ as a tool of comparison between fighters, and those like yourself who use resume simply as a list of who they’ve fought

          The difference being a resume usually highlights the positive aspects, not the negative ones like losses and draws
          But draws aren't negative. And I've been on this site and talked to enough boxing fans in my 43 years to know that resume refers to the full body of work. A fighter who gives a good account of himself in a loss (JMM for example) shouldn't have it relegated to nothing because of an unfavorable result. Wilder may have gotten outboxed in a draw, but he legitimately put Fury to sleep. People like to forget that part.
          Last edited by doom_specialist; 12-26-2019, 08:18 PM.

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          • #85
            I think Ortiz would take him if he were even as young as 48.

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            • #86
              Merry Christmas, Angel Fernandez

              Very good post man. Can you please tell us, if Ruiz was Wilders height and weight could he have beaten AJ again? You sound more like a fortune teller than a boxing trainer!

              Cheers.

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              • #87
                Sure. If Klit and Povetkin were 28, they'd probably beat you too.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
                  AJ is not a masterclass boxer although he is good. Masterclass boxers are boxers like Mumhammad Ali, Lomachenko, Floyd Mayweather, etc. Not boxers like Anthony Joshua.
                  But he just showed us he can if he wants to.

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                  • #89
                    If Ortiz wasn’t having health issues he wins regardless of age last year ,fast forward to now we aren’t going to see any version of Ortiz defeat a fighter and win a title of any importance . One thing I know about Wilder always seems to pick fighters when they’re vulnerable . His next fights going to be a reality check for most when he losses badly to a prime guy who’s prepared this time.

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                    • #90
                      alot of variables here, not just the age factor.

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