Why did Loma refuse to fight Pac when Pac said he'd come down?

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  • Beterbiev#1
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
    oh i see..after reading few of your posts, you seem like a hater, that looks for reasons to dis Vasiliy.

    1st he said - there is no reason for going up to 140 and fighting pac, he is too old, unless he goes down to 135, why not, let's do it.

    2nd of all Loma said - If Pac comes down to 135, and Arum would say go for it, there is a need for this battle - I would fight him with a heart beat.

    As Pac mentioned many times before - Arum is his master and chief. so I doubt there would of been problems to organise this fight.

    now when did Pac looked healthy at 135 again? 10+ years ago?

    quit with this ****** bull**** buddy

    watch these silly hype train folks. they will pick this **** up as soon as Lopez loses. After Lopez they will claim he ducks, Haney, then Gervonta..and of course Manny P.
    Oh ok, I see who you are. A straight fan boy giving out red k lol

    Here's the bottom line, Loma refused to even come to the "table" to negotiate. Who knows what would've came out the negotiations.

    Pac was at the table waiting for him and Loma never even showed up.

    BTW, Pac never said he wouldn't come to 135. Roach said that. Roach also wasn't present for the fight against Matthyse. Maybe Manny would've fought Loma with Buboy as his trainer? Who knows.

    I remember guys like yourself saying Jacobs vs G would never happen and that Danny was scared, different networks, blah blah blah.

    Fans like yourself need to GTFO the way and let the fans ask for the fight they want to see.

    I'm sure you came up with countless reasons on why Loma shouldn't fight Haney and so on.

    Pac vs Loma is a potential classic that can and should happen as long as fan boy's like yourself get out the damn way.

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    • Beterbiev#1
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      #22
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      140 is not good for Lomo who was coming from 126-130 he said 135 and Manny said no to that.

      Be like like a MW saying he will come to 154 for Manny , I guarantee you Manny would not take it.
      manny never said no to 135. Roach did.

      Pac walks around at around 147-150 give or take.

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      • MEXICAN STYLE
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        #23
        because H0moChenko is a coward !

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        • RuleOfTheSpear
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          #24
          Originally posted by mxtali
          Pacquiao wasn’t going down to 135 and Loma wasn’t going to 140


          Bob Arum approached the two camps. It was the Loma camp that turned it down. Egis Klimas said so himself. Arum couldn't forced it.
          Last edited by RuleOfTheSpear; 12-25-2019, 08:49 PM.

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          • R-Hand Southpaw
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            #25
            Originally posted by Beterbiev#1
            Oh ok, I see who you are. A straight fan boy giving out red k lol

            Here's the bottom line, Loma refused to even come to the "table" to negotiate. Who knows what would've came out the negotiations.

            Pac was at the table waiting for him and Loma never even showed up.

            BTW, Pac never said he wouldn't come to 135. Roach said that. Roach also wasn't present for the fight against Matthyse. Maybe Manny would've fought Loma with Buboy as his trainer? Who knows.

            I remember guys like yourself saying Jacobs vs G would never happen and that Danny was scared, different networks, blah blah blah.

            Fans like yourself need to GTFO the way and let the fans ask for the fight they want to see.

            I'm sure you came up with countless reasons on why Loma shouldn't fight Haney and so on.

            Pac vs Loma is a potential classic that can and should happen as long as fan boy's like yourself get out the damn way.
            The fact is as well as you try and spin it and say Pac was at the table it's not true.

            Pac said he could make 135 but until he actually does he cant and isnt. If he was at the table wanting a fight with Lomachenko he would be cutting weight and he isnt.

            Those are the facts.

            Lomachenko is very aware of weight classes and calling out opponents. Look at his last interview on his channel. He said he hasnt called tank out because hes in a different weight category but now hes in the same he can call him out.

            Look at all his past opponents.

            Even Rigo coming up two weight classes. He said the fight meant nothing to him because this is not Rigos weight category.

            Take a look at his interview when asked about Canelo beating Kovalev. He says hes confused why people who think Canelo is the best because he moved up in weight and beat a past prime Kovalev on his way out. It was weird because how can you be the best if you dont fight the best?

            Example. Canelo is the "best" p4p #1 but has only fought select opponents. You only can argue metaphorically that hes the best 160-175.

            Unlike Lomachenko who beat all coming challengers at 135. Lomachenko is without the best at 135 beating all the top guys.

            Plus the fight doesnt even make sense legacy wise for Manny. He loses and he looks bad. He kills himself to make 135 and then what? Who does he fight next? Think bigger.

            While it might be a great match accept it's not gonna happen for more than someone ducked someone. This fight just doesnt make sense which is why it wont happen.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #26
              Originally posted by Beterbiev#1
              Fight could've/should've happened. If Loma did that to Pac, I wonder what he'd do to others?
              - -Why Beter no come down for Loma?

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              • KillaMane26
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                #27
                Manny talked about moving down a million times. I don't believe him, and Loma knows he too small. The fight was never gonna happen!

                Manny over here fighting full fledged welterweights and Loma slowly losing power everytime he moves up.

                Loma's golden fight shoulda been vs Mikey but we saw what happened when he fought a full fledged welterweight

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #28
                  Loma's division is well stocked now. Fantasy fights are meaningless. Hopefully Top Rank makes the fights fans most want with Loma.

                  These are some fighters/boxers Loma can fight, and feast on, if he's as good as we are told he is: Davis, Lopez, Berchelt, Haney, Stevenson, Garcia. This should keep him busy for more than a couple of years. Forget those crooked belt orgs and fight the best in your division.

                  The Pacman can't even make 140 healthy.

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                  • Mooshashi
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Madison boxing
                    Because people would start crying saying hes fighting old fighters
                    Lol I just came out of a thread about Wilder beating an old Ortiz and being laughed at. Pac wanted the fight at 140....Lomo is small at 135.

                    However....it surely would have been the most money he EVER could have made. He should have taken the money and ran.

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                    • TheReadyTimeBoy
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                      #30
                      Pac is a bad style matchup for Loma

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