How good was prime Mike Tyson?

[Dariusz]

Why not to agree that prime Mike Tyson was the best small HW ever while Holyfield was the best roided small HW ever in the modern post-Marciano era.

[Curtis Harper]

Why not to agree that prime Mike Tyson was the best small HW ever while Holyfield was the best roided small HW ever in the modern post-Marciano era.

Would it be unrealistic to think Mike was on the juice ?

[Dariusz]

Would it be unrealistic to think Mike was on the juice ?

I strogly believe that prime young Tyson was clean. But noone can be 100% sure, true.

[Curtis Harper]

I strogly believe that prime young Tyson was clean. But noone can be 100% sure, true.

That rage, though........he didn't get it from that street life.

[Curtis Harper]

Hhmmm...

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/323095-tyson-would-not-fight-evander-without-a-steroid-test-tyson-coward

[CubanGuyNYC]

I think any heavyweight in the top 10 all time has the tools to beat any other on any given night.
I can’t think of a single fighter you could argue would be unbeatable.
I think Lewis is probably the best all round heavy, but he was vulnerable at times too.

There’s a lot of truth to this. And no, no one is unbeatable.

I don’t think Tyson is a top-ten heavyweight. But I’ve always said that, on his best night, he could’ve beaten anyone that ever lived. I suppose, as you pointed out, the same can be said about a few others.

[Armchairhero]

I strogly believe that prime young Tyson was clean. But noone can be 100% sure, true.

Look at mike as an early teen, he was a huge muscular kid...
His prime at 220 ish he was clean as a whistle

I’m an ex bodybuilder I think I have a good eye for it, in some of his later fights post prison he looked a bit juicy to me.

Holyfield is the most obvious juicer in boxing, it’s not even worth arguing about anymore, Roy Jones too when he moved up.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Look at mike as an early teen, he was a huge muscular kid...
His prime at 220 ish he was clean as a whistle

I’m an ex bodybuilder I think I have a good eye for it, in some of his later fights post prison he looked a bit juicy to me.

Holyfield is the most obvious juicer in boxing, it’s not even worth arguing about anymore, Roy Jones too when he moved up.

I remember when Holyfield hired Lee Haney as his strength and conditioning coach. More than likely that’s when his juicing days started. Lol

As for Tyson, I recall reading in “Bad Intentions,” by Peter Heller, that the first time he ever touched a weight, at the age of fifteen, he benched 225 ten times. Assuming this is true (and my recollection is accurate), that is a tremendously naturally strong human being. I would agree that Mike was clean before incarceration, but possibly started juicing sometime after.

[Airtioteclint]

I can whoop Super Macho Man pretty easily but never lasted a round with Mike so I'd say, REALLY good.

[Nash out]

I'd say prime Tyson vs Chisora now would be a great 50-50 fight.