Why not to agree that prime Mike Tyson was the best small HW ever while Holyfield was the best roided small HW ever in the modern post-Marciano era.
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How good was prime Mike Tyson?
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Originally posted by Armchairhero View PostI think any heavyweight in the top 10 all time has the tools to beat any other on any given night.
I can’t think of a single fighter you could argue would be unbeatable.
I think Lewis is probably the best all round heavy, but he was vulnerable at times too.
I don’t think Tyson is a top-ten heavyweight. But I’ve always said that, on his best night, he could’ve beaten anyone that ever lived. I suppose, as you pointed out, the same can be said about a few others.
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Originally posted by Dariusz View PostI strogly believe that prime young Tyson was clean. But noone can be 100% sure, true.
Look at mike as an early teen, he was a huge muscular kid...
His prime at 220 ish he was clean as a whistle
I’m an ex bodybuilder I think I have a good eye for it, in some of his later fights post prison he looked a bit juicy to me.
Holyfield is the most obvious juicer in boxing, it’s not even worth arguing about anymore, Roy Jones too when he moved up.
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Originally posted by Armchairhero View PostLook at mike as an early teen, he was a huge muscular kid...
His prime at 220 ish he was clean as a whistle
I’m an ex bodybuilder I think I have a good eye for it, in some of his later fights post prison he looked a bit juicy to me.
Holyfield is the most obvious juicer in boxing, it’s not even worth arguing about anymore, Roy Jones too when he moved up.
As for Tyson, I recall reading in “Bad Intentions,” by Peter Heller, that the first time he ever touched a weight, at the age of fifteen, he benched 225 ten times. Assuming this is true (and my recollection is accurate), that is a tremendously naturally strong human being. I would agree that Mike was clean before incarceration, but possibly started juicing sometime after.
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I can whoop Super Macho Man pretty easily but never lasted a round with Mike so I'd say, REALLY good.
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