How good was prime Mike Tyson?

[NORMNEALON]

Right. I’m 5’10” 210lbs in my best shape. I practiced that combo all the time. I remember Evander taking it though. I’ve always liked one armed combos, like the jab to the face with a left to the body. Looks cool when they get someone to protect the wrong side.

Iam a big fan of the jab check hook . That's my jam but I cant pull off that body head **** it's not smart for me . I usually had a 4 inch height advantage minimum and I fought long . I have 78" reach, iam just under 6'2 and I fought at 141 . I could **** on the inside if I had to but it rarely did happen . My jab really did what I needed to set up the right hand or left hook . Iam pretty pissed my face broke right when it was getting good and I was competing open but life throws curve balls sometimes .

[MiDKnighT]

OK I'll play.

Most people would say prime Foreman is 1973 Foreman but Foreman himself said his old self would whoop his younger self so perhaps the Foreman that annihilated Cooney by his definition.

Prime Ali is the Ali that beat Sonny Liston.

Prime Lewis is the Lewis that KO'd Golata in 1 and TKO'd Briggs in 5 in the following match.

Prime Holyfield is the Holyfield that beat Bowe during their 2nd fight.

Prime Bowe is the Bowe that beat Holyfield in their first match.

Klitchko brothers in the mid 2000s.

All would beat "prime" Tyson.

Now that I think about it more. Add the Sonny Liston that beat the daylights out of Cus's guy Floyd Patterson twice. He owned the peek a boo style. The Liston that dominated Patterson also beats Tyson.

[Armchairhero]

Winning is winning.

Wilder wouldn't lose a single rd vs the guys Mike fought leading up to him being the youngest HW champ. I don't know how a fight fan can credit Mike for beating the guys he did YET call other guys resumes trashy !

Wilder looks like trash, the question I was answering is why Mike gets praise and why Wilder is dismissed. He has lost plenty rounds against very mediocre fighters. We all know he has the equaliser, there is no dis*****g that. He is a terrible boxer, only a totally biased fan boy could try and spin that he is some master boxer.
It’s cool on here to knock Mike, but whatever is said about him, he was hard to hit, had a great work rate, fast hands with great combinations and an incredible jab for a short guy punching up.
If Wilder had half of Mikes skills he’d be one of the best ever.

[Curtis Harper]

Wilder looks like trash, the question I was answering is why Mike gets praise and why Wilder is dismissed. He has lost plenty rounds against very mediocre fighters. We all know he has the equaliser, there is no dis*****g that. He is a terrible boxer, only a totally biased fan boy could try and spin that he is some master boxer.
It’s cool on here to knock Mike, but whatever is said about him, he was hard to hit, had a great work rate, fast hands with great combinations and an incredible jab for a short guy punching up.
If Wilder had half of Mikes skills he’d be one of the best ever.

If you can name a guy Mike beat up to his fight with Berbick YOU THINK would trouble Wilder, I'd like to know his name.

Imho, Wilder wouldn't need as many punches to end those guys.

[MiDKnighT]

It’s cool on here to knock Mike, but whatever is said about him, he was hard to hit, had a great work rate, fast hands with great combinations and an incredible jab for a short guy punching up.

I think Tyson was a great fighter. I can't deny that. But to say he could beat any heavyweight all-time is just ridiculous. I think he could completely dominate lesser competition but when he went up against another elite fighter or a very determined good fighter (Buster D) he folded. In other words, he was very good but is vastly overrated by some.

Along the same lines I think Ali is often overrated. Yes he was a great champion but he wasn't unbeatable. I see Ali as the Holyfield of the 60s and 70s. Took on a lot of great fighters and went to war several times but took some losses in the process.

[Armchairhero]

If you can name a guy Mike beat up to his fight with Berbick YOU THINK would trouble Wilder, I'd like to know his name.

Imho, Wilder wouldn't need as many punches to end those guys.

You think mike would have went 12 rounds with the fat Hiatian ? Wilder has fought 1 elite fighter in Fury, Ortiz is an old man, older and no where near as good as Holmes who mike gets no credit in beating.

Why are you obsessed with who he’s faced I was born in 81 I have no idea who beat on the way up...I do know Wilder has took the easy route all the way and only now feels he can fight the best.

I’m pretty sure mike fought and beat 8 of the top 10, there’s a long list who Deontay hasn’t fought, I’m not saying he couldn’t beat them, he just chose not to.

[Armchairhero]

I think Tyson was a great fighter. I can't deny that. But to say he could beat any heavyweight all-time is just ridiculous. I think he could completely dominate lesser competition but when he went up against another elite fighter or a very determined good fighter (Buster D) he folded. In other words, he was very good but is vastly overrated by some.

Along the same lines I think Ali is often overrated. Yes he was a great champion but he wasn't unbeatable. I see Ali as the Holyfield of the 60s and 70s. Took on a lot of great fighters and went to war several times but took some losses in the process.

I think any heavyweight in the top 10 all time has the tools to beat any other on any given night.
I can’t think of a single fighter you could argue would be unbeatable.
I think Lewis is probably the best all round heavy, but he was vulnerable at times too.

[Curtis Harper]

You think mike would have went 12 rounds with the fat Hiatian ? Wilder has fought 1 elite fighter in Fury, Ortiz is an old man, older and no where near as good as Holmes who mike gets no credit in beating.

Why are you obsessed with who he’s faced I was born in 81 I have no idea who beat on the way up...I do know Wilder has took the easy route all the way and only now feels he can fight the best.

I’m pretty sure mike fought and beat 8 of the top 10, there’s a long list who Deontay hasn’t fought, I’m not saying he couldn’t beat them, he just chose not to.

All I asked for was a name YOU THINK Wilder would have had problems with, concerning the guys Mike fought up to the Berbick fight.

I'm ''obsessed'' with resumes. Sue me

[Armchairhero]

All I asked for was a name YOU THINK Wilder would have had problems with, concerning the guys Mike fought up to the Berbick fight.

I'm ''obsessed'' with resumes. Sue me

Name a guy mike would have problems with upto wilder fighting Fury?

[Curtis Harper]

Name a guy mike would have problems with upto wilder fighting Fury?

So......I should answer YOUR question ?