Comments Thread For: Hearn Offers Charlo One-Fight Deal For Andrade May Unification

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I don't have any inside information about the specifics of the offer beyond what was reported, which is why I said that perhaps I could be oversimplifying things.

It was reported that Hearn was demanding an option.

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We shouldn't have to wait 3-4 years for fights and fighters should fight at least 3 times per year barring injury.

I disagree. We're not entitled to anything. Fighters aren't entitled to our money and we aren't entitled to them fighting.

Training camps are much longer and much more intense than in the past. 12 week camps are common now. Two fights a year means 24 weeks of camp. That's half your life. Camp is torture. 3 fights a year would be 36 weeks of camp. No millionaire is going to put himself through that, especially when the TV networks don't want to give that many dates to one fighter.

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As a fan, would you wanna see Charlo-Andrade if it happened on the PBC platform?

I'm not a fan.

I'd want to see Charlo vs Andrade regardless of the platform. PBC or DAZN. I don't care. I love fights where everything is at stake, the fighters are from different sides, and the two sides are sweating bullets the entire fight.

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Ok, if there are better fighters on "your side of the street" then fine, however if a greater threat exists "across the street" then as a fan I want to at least see an effort to make the fight happen.

As a fan, you should want whatever you want. I will never tell a fan what they should want. I have no problem with you wanting Charlo vs. Andrade. I want it too.

The issue is when fans think they know what a fighter SHOULD do. Which is totally different than what a fan wants them to do.

According to boxrec, 3 of the top 5 middleweights are with PBC and 2 of the top 5 middleweights are with DAZN. Personally, I'm very skeptical that Canelo is returning to middleweight, which would mean 3 of the top 4 middleweights are with PBC.

The two opponents PBC is lining up for Charlo are both rated higher than Andrade.

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Fans pay money to go watch these fights in person. Or pay for Showtime or the streaming services. Or sit through commercials while watching the fights on free tv.

Their wants and desires deserve to be taken into account when promoters are trying to make money off them.

This bullshshit of trying to minimize or outright ignore their voice is backwards. If anything the fans need to make their voice louder and stronger and more unified in order to have a better, healthier sport.

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I disagree. We're not entitled to anything. Fighters aren't entitled to our money and we aren't entitled to them fighting.

Training camps are much longer and much more intense than in the past. 12 week camps are common now. Two fights a year means 24 weeks of camp. That's half your life. Camp is torture. 3 fights a year would be 36 weeks of camp. No millionaire is going to put himself through that, especially when the TV networks don't want to give that many dates to one fighter.

Ok fair enough, and of course they don't have to fight just like we don't have to pay to watch them fight. My statement is based on what I often read and hear from them about wanting to be more active. If they want to take the "Gary Russell Jr." approach and fight once a year then fine, it's just that I often hear fighters express a desire to be more active

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I'm not a fan.

I'd want to see Charlo vs Andrade regardless of the platform. PBC or DAZN. I don't care. I love fights where everything is at stake, the fighters are from different sides, and the two sides are sweating bullets the entire fight.

I meant as a boxing fan in general, which I assume you are if you're in this chat. We agree on the fact that we both want to see compelling fights regardless of promotional affiliations and networks.

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It was reported that Hearn was demanding an option.

LOL was it now? You sure about that? You do have a bit of a history of being a bit of a story teller.

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Ok fair enough, and of course they don't have to fight just like we don't have to pay to watch them fight. My statement is based on what I often read and hear from them about wanting to be more active. If they want to take the "Gary Russell Jr." approach and fight once a year then fine, it's just that I often hear fighters express a desire to be more active

It's very rarely the stars asking to be more active because most of the stars want to fight twice a year, and twice a year is what the industry is able to accommodate. Tank Davis did ask to fight three times last year since he's so young and Showtime was able to give him three dates.

Usually the fighters complaining about wanting to be more active are those second or third tier guys. The Austin Trout or Luis Callazo kind of guys. Who aren't big enough names to get their own TV dates. So they have to wait for an A-side willing to give them a decent payday.

Now, if they were willing to fight for peanuts, they could stay active. But if they want to make real money, they're often stuck waiting a year or two between fights until a bigger names wants their scalp on their resume.

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I meant as a boxing fan in general, which I assume you are if you're in this chat.

No, I'm not a boxing fan.