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  • Originally posted by BoZz View Post
    Hey Joshua fans how do you feel knowing that joshua is hiding behind Fury now? Offering him help to beat the big bad wilder...I mean fury don't need help he will toy with the b**** deontay anyway but I think he feels sorry for joshua so he accepted his help. He probably saw how fast joshua can run in the fight against ruiz, he might use him as his water boy or something
    It wasn't that long ago that Fury was chucking heaps of praise on Joshua when he was an amateur.

    Read it here.

    Fury said;
    "He's red hot him (Joshua), He's a very good prospect. To be honest with you, I thought to myself, i'd take it easy on him because he's is only an amateur and he probably won't spar again if I go mad.

    "He's rushed out at me and threw a left hook, bashed me with a big uppercut right on the point of the chin and if i had a weak chin like David Price i'd have been knocked out for a month"

    There is no way that anyone can say that Joshua hasn't improved dramatically since being an amateur - Fury said this before he became unified champ so had no alternate agenda, unlike now.

    Its only since Joshua took all the belts that Fury gave up has he suddenly become a 'dosser'.

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    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
      The DAZN deal was a 3 fight deal with 2 of those being against AJ. There was no control over the coward and his worthless "Career" beyond this point. But you're a deranged nutter who claims the opposite of reality every single time.

      Tell me how the bum Wilder who generates nothing was undervalued with the 3 fight 100 Mill deal? Spell it all out so I can yet again see your craziness.

      Hearn acknowledged that they weren't worth that much of a split. But your head takes in information that doesn't even exist. That's how crazy you nutters are.
      Ok genius...explain how that 3-fight offer was for Joshua only (hint the 3rd fight was Breazeale)? Which is what I commented on. After you figure that out, then let me and everyone else know what the provisions were in the offer that would allow Wilder to fight on PBC after the Breazeale fight but before the AJ fights. You know...since AJ lost and all. Lastly, tell us why the guy offering the contract said ...I fk'd the offer up because I was rushing. Why would he said that?

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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
        What, like Wilder failing on PPV again? Hearn and AJ knows he's going to have to go to the extreme to get this coward American to fight. It's always the way with those from the coward nation.

        Betting on yourself is fighting the best and taking risks like AJ did. Wilder ran and ducked everyone so did the complete opposite. But that's the way with your backwards nation. Everything is the complete opposite to reality and truth.
        ok bruv, thanks for the reply

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        • Originally posted by Mister Wolf View Post
          Joshua told him to make the fights happen. The promoter works for the fighter.

          Exactly, AJ has told him to stop messing about, no excuses from either side now

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          • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
            Unless he had some type of crystal ball, he didn’t know Joshua was gonna lose to Ruiz...we can’t act like that factored into his decision to reject the offer. As far as he knew at the time, the deal was for hw supremacy and a whole bunch of money...pretty well covers all the bases. It’s easy to look back at it after what’s unfolded and say maybe wilder made the right call if he does get 50/50...but if he didn’t get a gift draw vs fury, or aj got beat by Ruiz again, who knows how things would be looking. Wilder took a gamble, and got lucky that it might work out for him. He still has to get by fury.
            Exactly my point, sir. Why would anyone sign a deal to fight multiple fighters when you're only looking at one person? It's too unpredictable, because the deal requires both guys to keep winning, which as we just saw is not a guarantee. Sure Wilder still makes $100-$120, but what happens after Joshua loses? What if Wilder loses? Are there provisions in the contract that says he gets a crack at all of the belts regardless of who the champion is, or if he is no longer a champion? How long does it take to adjust to these potential losses? What about all of the money to be earned beyond the contractual guarantees?

            The same way you guys say that Wilder could have taken the DAZN deal, is the way I say that Joshua could have taken the $50M deal. No funny business where you have to join PBC and beat a couple of guys, rematch clause, etc. Joshua just showed everyone why the deal was good financially for Wilder, but would have ended up being potentially disastrous in the long run.

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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
              Hearn never said the cowardly bum Wilder was worth 50%. He and AJ just know that that is what it's going to take to get those with deep fears to finally accept their beatings.

              What truth remains? You clearly don't know the definition of truth. Why would you when you're detached from reality and clearly evil and demonic.
              lol.. Bytch wipe AJ's cum from around yo lips before u message me again. U dic in the booty uber man fan boys come outta hiding when the prince of arabia wins a marathon? He's still a robot with no head movement.. An will be Koed! Which is why hearn offered Wilder 12.5 million! And declined 50 million \ plus 50%! Now.. All u get is 50% and AJ will be asleep in 1 round! The End! Lets see if Whyte or AJ fights Ortiz... Lmao! We already know juicin j will duck.. But whyte.. He has ducked Ortiz since the first Wilder Ortiz fight! Calling the man 60,000 years old.. When in truth he was only 38, Then ducking the man at 39! And will duck him at 40 too! Even though he just went life and death with a 39 year old wach! Game ove buddy! Yawl is exposed!!!

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                You're the one who is clearly dumb as a rock. The money you generate isn't based on whether you're undefeated or not, you clown. Fury and Wilder bring very little to the table. AJ is the money man. Only a person who is sick in the head and deeply unwell would think otherwise.
                Phuck you AJ lost so who gives a phuck about him... winner of wilder v fury is the main man. No matter how you and your mom feel... puzzy

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                • Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
                  Wilder had a single belt, was earning $3m a fight and wanted 50/50. That isn't how it works. The champion gets the lions share, always has.

                  Interesting to see the reactions of the two fighters after the Ruiz rematch;

                  AJ: "let's get the big fights done now. I want to fight Wilder and Fury as soon as possible.

                  DW:" no chance of a unification now, it isn't going to happen".

                  Stop running Wilder, you can't forever.
                  Pretty convenient that he asks for the big fights AFTER Wilder agrees to fight Fury twice this year and while he has 2 mandatories himself to take care of. Wilder is so scared of losing he goes right back to fight Fury as soon as possible even though the entire world believes he lost (again, 1 millisecond away from winning by knockout). I mean, this is also after he accepted the 50 million dollar offer and then rejected it when he found out his contract holders would take a chunk of it.

                  Selective memory is the go-to for AJ fans apparently.

                  If you claim to demand the big fights and all you care about is unification, 50/50 sounds like a worthwhile compromise. Now that Eddie Hearn is saying the winner of Fury/Wilder is worth 50/50 AJ fans will still ignore it and continue spouting rhetoric. The best one is "they told him to sign without telling him the terms". I guess they were demanding AJ sign a blank paper with a signature line, that's the logic of AJ fans.

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                  • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
                    Exactly my point, sir. Why would anyone sign a deal to fight multiple fighters when you're only looking at one person? It's too unpredictable, because the deal requires both guys to keep winning, which as we just saw is not a guarantee. Sure Wilder still makes $100-$120, but what happens after Joshua loses? What if Wilder loses? Are there provisions in the contract that says he gets a crack at all of the belts regardless of who the champion is, or if he is no longer a champion? How long does it take to adjust to these potential losses? What about all of the money to be earned beyond the contractual guarantees?

                    The same way you guys say that Wilder could have taken the DAZN deal, is the way I say that Joshua could have taken the $50M deal. No funny business where you have to join PBC and beat a couple of guys, rematch clause, etc. Joshua just showed everyone why the deal was good financially for Wilder, but would have ended up being potentially disastrous in the long run.
                    Not sure how 100-120mil could be “disastrous”. Regardless of all circumstances, he was guaranteed to earn much more than he has and he’s still not the undisputed champion.

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                    • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                      Not sure how 100-120mil could be “disastrous”. Regardless of all circumstances, he was guaranteed to earn much more than he has and he’s still not the undisputed champion.
                      From what I've been told, he was supposed to get $20M for Brezeale, and then $50M twice for the Joshua matches. He doesn't get that when Joshua loses, because they're not going to give him $50M to fight Andy Ruiz. If Wilder elects to wait for Joshua to maybe get the titles back, then he's on the shelf not making any money for however long that takes. Beyond the money, Ruiz is simply not as prestigious as Joshua. Beating undefeated Anthony Joshua for the undisputed championship means more than beating him now. Same as if Wilder gets beaten before they meet.

                      As I've continued to say, Hearn didn't offer him a bad deal financially, but it left a lot of question marks around what would happen if either guy lost the 0. If either guy loses, then what happens next is speculation, because none of us know what was in the contract besides the proposed guarantees. That's why prefer Wilder's 1 fight deal. A straight up offer to fight the guy I want to fight, without the potential for the timeline to change substantially.
                      Last edited by doom_specialist; 12-20-2019, 11:52 AM.

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