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  • Originally posted by SCEN3RY View Post
    strictly focusing on the bold: unification is much more difficult because of political climates first, before the opponent becomes an obstacle. Crawford may be the best at welter, but if his promoter can't get him the other champs like they did at 140, he might never unify welter. Look at the effort TR took in trying to get Loma unification bouts at 126 and 130, to no success. If Crawford beats any ONE of the current champs in his next fight, he will already have a better resume at welter than he did at 140. His belts at 140 don't mean sh it all of a sudden. If he even beats a former champ like a Keith Thurman, he'll surpass his achievements at 140. That unification nonsense is as important as the opponents you beat, and no more important because of a trinket. It can be notable and something to be proud of, but the quality of the opponent matters...it just does.

    We have to accept that Canelo thinks differently, he'd rather pursue another weight class than to bother collecting all the belts at 154. When a guy fights trout, lara, golovkin, jacobs, kovalev...you can't call him scared or inferior for not unifying. This guy is just taking a different approach to carving his legacy and it has less to do with collecting trinkets. Belts are as valuable as you think they are. And let's be real, Canelo doesn't care about belts as much as the Organizations care about their belt around Canelo.
    Every expert on the planet would say that unification in a weight class is the single most difficult achievement in boxing. That's not a matter of my opinion but more importantly every experts opinion that has ever lived. There really is no debating it.

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    • Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
      Arum offered Danny 6 million, Danny never responded back, not with a counter offer or anything else.

      Danny instead fought Adrian Granados for peanuts in a tiny half full arena. The fight was estimated to make Danny between 1 and 1.25 million.

      It's obvious that Danny simply doesn't want to fight Crawford.
      Arum offered Danny 4 million. he paid more for chinny Khan... i dont wanna hear it

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      • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
        Alvarez has 0 prime fighters on his resume, unless James Kirkland or Lara counts. He's dragged a few guys up and down on the scales (especially with perceived threats), and has largely fought old guys. His best win is a 36 year old Golovkin, and a 36 year old Kovalev lol
        All boxing attractions Post Floyd are taking their careers following Floyd's play book. If that ghettho sewer rat is idolized for his career why can't Canelo be idolized? All Canelo has to do now is repeat over and over that he is the GOAT, come up with accessories and a clothing line that says that so that all casuals and sheep believe it.

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        • Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
          Every expert on the planet would say that unification in a weight class is the single most difficult achievement in boxing. That's not a matter of my opinion but more importantly every experts opinion that has ever lived. There really is no debating it.
          that's an opinion and you're stating it as factual. if you're going to respond to my post then I ask you to at least rebuke what I said with an explanation, even a short one. If Crawford were to beat Thurman or a single current champ in his next fight, you would still consider his resume at 140 better than his resume at welter because he unified against lesser opposition? If yes, I disagree. And you and I are clearly not going to see eye to eye.

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          • Originally posted by Bandman View Post
            Nonsense. Arum could've paid Danny Garcia yet decided to overpay for chinny Khan. i don't wanna hear it
            Nothing was posted for you to hear. You couldnt hear a **** sliding up your own ass.

            Danny turned down a CAREER HIGH PAYDAY with PPV backside and instead fought a journeyman in Granados on basic cable. Oh and Danny was vocal about wanting to rematch Porter and Thurman...beating PFP #1 Terrence THE DOG Crawford wouldve given leverage for ANY matchup.

            Danny walked instead.

            And you keep taking pipe. Boy

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            • Originally posted by MexicanStyle#1 View Post
              All boxing attractions Post Floyd are taking their careers following Floyd's play book. If that ghettho sewer rat is idolized for his career why can't Canelo be idolized? All Canelo has to do now is repeat over and over that he is the GOAT, come up with accessories and a clothing line that says that so that all casuals and sheep believe it.
              Geez, what a salty comment. Mayweather is idolized because he fought for 20 years and took out everyone with a name worth mentioning. Who did he miss? He didn't start with the "TBE" talk until he had been P4P number one for years, with the accomplishments to back it up. No one else in history has gone 26-0 in title fights, with like 22 world champions defeated, more money made than any fighter in history, in less than 50 fights and no losses, across 5 weight classes. And he absolutely sonned the guy you're campaigning so hard for. You can idolize Alvarez all you want, but from a purely objective point of view, he's several leagues below Mayweather. So low that he couldn't beat a 37 year old version of him with a 15 lbs. weight advantage.

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              • Originally posted by doom_specialist View Post
                Geez, what a salty comment. Mayweather is idolized because he fought for 20 years and took out everyone with a name worth mentioning. Who did he miss? He didn't start with the "TBE" talk until he had been P4P number one for years, with the accomplishments to back it up. No one else in history has gone 26-0 in title fights, with like 22 world champions defeated, more money made than any fighter in history, in less than 50 fights and no losses, across 5 weight classes. And he absolutely sonned the guy you're campaigning so hard for. You can idolize Alvarez all you want, but from a purely objective point of view, he's several leagues below Mayweather. So low that he couldn't beat a 37 year old version of him with a 15 lbs. weight advantage.
                Point proven. People do not care about the how, when, and where... just a record. In that case chavez senior should be number 1 of all time based on his record of going about 80 and zero!!!

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                • Originally posted by Mister Wolf View Post
                  And getting stripped for not fighting a tough mandatory on more than one occasion. Dude has been stripped three times avoiding quality competition. **** the excuses.
                  Even with that he still has a far superior resume compared to Bud Crawford (and you can look at my post history I'm a Canelo "hater" and even I can see who is the current P4P, its not Bud).

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                  • Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
                    Even with that he still has a far superior resume compared to Bud Crawford (and you can look at my post history I'm a Canelo "hater" and even I can see who is the current P4P, its not Bud).
                    That's fine. If Bud fights Porter next and stops him he will be the number one in my eyes no argument.

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                    • Originally posted by MexicanStyle#1 View Post
                      Point proven. People do not care about the how, when, and where... just a record. In that case chavez senior should be number 1 of all time based on his record of going about 80 and zero!!!
                      Point proven indeed. Everything is Mayweather's fault. He's been in the driver's seat since day one, never having to get out of shady contracts, never dealing with big name fighters making excuses as a no name (Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao, etc) and all that other stuff. Whenever he beats a young fighter, let's put an asterisk there so he can keep being wrong. Mayweather also does not age, so it's an advantage for him to fight "old" guys (even when he's older than they are).

                      Not saying the guy is perfect, or TBE or any of that. He's just better than Alvarez. Alvarez's legit best win is 37 year old Golovkin. If you want to idolize that then be my guest.

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