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  • #91
    And you're king of the mountain for beating Khan, give your crooked head a shake.

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    • #92
      Ya think maybe Canelo can fight Andrade, Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Maciej Sulęcki or anyone at 160, in his weight class under 36 ? Nobody is asking Canelo to unify, that's crazy hard and why only all time greats like Hopkins, Hagler and Crawford did it.

      Just sayn...


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      Originally posted by Born X Raised View Post
      3 prime fighters Canelo beat were Trout, Lara, and Jacobs.

      What young lions was he supposed to fight that he hasn’t yet?

      Andrade? Charlo? Lmao.

      To me a boxer’s prime is 28-32 years old.

      Canelo and Mosley are 19 years apart in age. Were they supposed to fight when Mosley was 28-32 years old and Canelo was 9-13 years old?

      Canelo and Mayweather are 13 years apart in age. Were they supposed to fight when Mayweather was 28-32 years old and Canelo was 15-19 years old?

      Canelo and Cotto are 10 years apart in age. Were they supposed to fight when Cotto was 28-32 years old and Canelo was 18-22 years old.

      Canelo and Golovkin are 8 years apart in age. Were they supposed to fight when Golovkin was 28-32 years old and Canelo was 20-24 years old?

      Canelo and Kovalev are 7 years apart in age. Were they supposed to fight when Kovalev was 28-32 years old and Canelo was 21-25 years old?

      How dare Canelo be born much later than those guys, lmao.
      Last edited by factsarenice; 12-17-2019, 04:34 PM.

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      • #93
        If Canelo can still make 154, then they should settle it in the ring.

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        • #94
          Canelo, dropping belts to avoid prime lions is not a coincidence, it's a money making pattern and a great one at that... BUT let's not make believe it's on the level of unifying a weight class....it's not.

          Unification is exponentially more difficult and that's just a fact.

          The few people that put Canelo above Crawford and Loma on their P4P confuse popularity with accomplishment. I would expect people on the site to know better and push back but evidently some don't know the difference. Unfortunately there are a few "so called" experts that convolute the two as being equal and in doing so give the cult follower hollow talk points.

          In the end it's a marketing technique that generates money and that's great for the sport but P4P it's not.

          There I said it, somebody had to.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
            Ya think maybe Canelo can fight Andrade, Charlo, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Maciej Sulęcki or anyone at 160, in his weight class under 36 ? Nobody is asking Canelo to unify, that's crazy hard and why only all time greats like Hopkins, Hagler and Crawford did it.

            Just sayn...


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            Well, Canelo is supposed to fight Saunders (30 years old) or Smith (29 years old) in his next fight so there’s that.

            Eventually I think Canelo should fight Andrade since it’s an easy fight to make.

            He shouldn’t be expected to fight Charlo or any PBC fighters though.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
              Canelo, dropping belts to avoid prime lions is not a coincidence, it's a money making pattern and a great one at that... BUT let's not make believe it's on the level of unifying a weight class....it's not.

              Unification is exponentially more difficult and that's just a fact.

              The few people that put Canelo above Crawford and Loma on their P4P confuse popularity with accomplishment. I would expect people on the site to know better and push back but evidently some don't know the difference. Unfortunately there are a few "so called" experts that convolute the two as being equal and in doing so give the cult follower hollow talk points.

              In the end it's a marketing technique that generates money and that's great for the sport but P4P it's not.

              There I said it, somebody had to.
              strictly focusing on the bold: unification is much more difficult because of political climates first, before the opponent becomes an obstacle. Crawford may be the best at welter, but if his promoter can't get him the other champs like they did at 140, he might never unify welter. Look at the effort TR took in trying to get Loma unification bouts at 126 and 130, to no success. If Crawford beats any ONE of the current champs in his next fight, he will already have a better resume at welter than he did at 140. His belts at 140 don't mean sh it all of a sudden. If he even beats a former champ like a Keith Thurman, he'll surpass his achievements at 140. That unification nonsense is as important as the opponents you beat, and no more important because of a trinket. It can be notable and something to be proud of, but the quality of the opponent matters...it just does.

              We have to accept that Canelo thinks differently, he'd rather pursue another weight class than to bother collecting all the belts at 154. When a guy fights trout, lara, golovkin, jacobs, kovalev...you can't call him scared or inferior for not unifying. This guy is just taking a different approach to carving his legacy and it has less to do with collecting trinkets. Belts are as valuable as you think they are. And let's be real, Canelo doesn't care about belts as much as the Organizations care about their belt around Canelo.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bandman View Post
                drunk ass Spence went over to the UK and stopped Brook. more impressive than anything Bud has done at 147. then he beat Porter, another elite win. Crawford needs to fight Porter next and do better than Erroll.
                None of them will fight TC. So he can just keep being himself in the meantime and dominating best available competition

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
                  None of them will fight TC. So he can just keep being himself in the meantime and dominating best available competition
                  Nonsense. Arum could've paid Danny Garcia yet decided to overpay for chinny Khan. i don't wanna hear it

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Born X Raised View Post
                    Well, Canelo is supposed to fight Saunders (30 years old) or Smith (29 years old) in his next fight so there’s that.

                    Eventually I think Canelo should fight Andrade since it’s an easy fight to make.

                    He shouldn’t be expected to fight Charlo or any PBC fighters though.
                    I hope you are right. You are probably correct about Charlo too, he has himself to blame for predicament.

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                    • Originally posted by Bandman View Post
                      Nonsense. Arum could've paid Danny Garcia yet decided to overpay for chinny Khan. i don't wanna hear it
                      Arum offered Danny 6 million, Danny never responded back, not with a counter offer or anything else.

                      Danny instead fought Adrian Granados for peanuts in a tiny half full arena. The fight was estimated to make Danny between 1 and 1.25 million.

                      It's obvious that Danny simply doesn't want to fight Crawford.

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