ESPN rates Bud as P4P #1 your pick?

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    Kingslayer
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    #11
    it's a ****** argument...it's a popularity and bias contest. Crawford is good, very good. I can say that and still say, I don't think all that much of his resume and that includes being "undisputed." Belts are nice, but who had the belts? What have any of those guys done since? Or what were their great accomplishments before Crawford? You see how quickly this can get biased if you're not being honest?

    Crawford doesn't have the best resume at welterweight, let alone across all weight categories in the last few years.

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    • MulaKO
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      #12
      Originally posted by Legends456
      Huge fan of Loma and Crawford here.

      I think Crawford by the eye test is elite (but I know a lot of people don’t like the eye test).

      He has skill, agility, heart, and ring IQ. He reminds me a bit of SRL. He NEEDS to get the big fights though to prove it, I hear ya.

      Loma is great, but I think he doesn’t look as sharp at LW as he did at his old weight (130 I think?)

      Lots of other great fighters and boxers out there right now.

      Canelo’s obviously good, but I have an issue with the clenbuterol and lots of scores going too far in his favor, and something very odd about his fight with Kovalev. Not calling it a fix, but something senses off to me there.

      My P4P right now looks like this:

      1. Crawford
      2. Spence
      3. Alvarez
      4. Lomachenko
      5. Wilder
      6. Inoue
      7. Charlo
      8. Andrade
      9. Usyk
      10. Lopez

      Just off the top of my head anyways. It might look a little different if I consulted boxrec and refreshed my memory of who holds what belt and who’s fought whom...

      Good post until I saw that you got fughin Spence second on that list
      Kind of goes against everything you just stated
      Spence’s only great fight , imo , is going over the pond and defeating Brooks
      The rest seems like ok but nothing , and I mean nothing to brag about

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      • moochi
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        #13
        Lol Canelo, most of his official wins are either a robbery, controversial or cherry picked.

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        • FannonOG
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          #14
          King Wilder is number 1 p4p.

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          • HandsofIron
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            #15
            For me, Crawford still is the best p4p, he's just a smarter fighter than Loma and Canelo.

            And I can't take Canelo seriously anymore since he's a drug cheat and he's also taking the path of least resistance when it comes to his fights now.

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            • strykr619
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              #16
              Originally posted by patrick_p
              And yet Bud thinks fighting a journeyman who lost to Robinson grants him PBP top but Canelo moving up 2 weight classes and knocking out a champion is anything less than this shameful Arum scam.
              As much as I don't like Canelo he IS THE P4P NUMBER 1 AT THE MOMENT.

              ESPN is full of it.

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              • Legends456
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                #17
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                Good post until I saw that you got fughin Spence second on that list
                Kind of goes against everything you just stated
                Spence’s only great fight , imo , is going over the pond and defeating Brooks
                The rest seems like ok but nothing , and I mean nothing to brag about
                Well, I suppose you make a fair argument. I like Spence because he looks so fluid and seems to keep a cool head. Also think it’s cool he gave Mayweather a waffle eye in sparring. But I suppose he is a bit too high... fair point there

                Like I said, it was just off the top of my head

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                • PRchamp
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mister Wolf


                  Is Mikey lying?
                  Hey I’ll take his word but this coming from a part time fighter who last PPV he decided to play if safe.

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                  • Mister Wolf
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRchamp
                    Hey I’ll take his word but this coming from a part time fighter who last PPV he decided to play if safe.
                    Damn you on Mikey neck Champ. Now he soft?

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                    • MulaKO
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Legends456
                      Well, I suppose you make a fair argument. I like Spence because he looks so fluid and seems to keep a cool head. Also think it’s cool he gave Mayweather a waffle eye in sparring. But I suppose he is a bit too high... fair point there

                      Like I said, it was just off the top of my head
                      It’s all good but was cringing when I saw that
                      Just wanted to hear your reasoning

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