Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Don't Believe Loma, Canelo Have Passed Me On P4P List

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You're twisting up what I say about Bud. Hows this: Buds p4p #2 on my p4p along with several other fighters which are all tied behind Canelo who is the only current fighter who is fighting all the biggest names & draws from multiple weightclasses anywhere near his weight.(he follows the script atg fighters are supposed to follow which is to fight winnable challenging fights where nobody knows for sure what'll happen beforehand on a steady basis while his contemporaries are fighting a shell of his leftovers like AmirCon

You're wrong though about ped testing, before Canelo started doing Vada every fight it was in its infancy in Boxing & inferior usada(ukad equivalent) was what was used which was also used by canelo since age 20 when he faced Mosely.(because all boxers were using it)


I rate Crawford equally to Spence at this moment but I have always favored Spence over bud as you well know,but Spence has fought better fighters than Bud(& I was among only few on here saying Spence/porter was a pickem fight because Porter has amazing abilities to make fights ugly to opponents detriment.

I understand VADA was founded in 2011, a year before Saul had fought Shane Mosley. In my reference to drug testing I used VADA, because I thought you were alluding that the WBO did not or does not have mandatory VADA testing ( last time I checked ), as does the WBC, and thereby I thought you indirectly/passively questioned or threw shade at Terence clean record for PEDS.

-- you referred to the WBO as a minor title by calling it a 'trinket'. I personally dont have a bias for the WBO btw.

I use to root for Canelo, dont get me wrong, I appreciate his effort and skill. I only go hard in Nelo because he let me down with the Clen, I have a zero tolerance policy on drugs.

Yeah you missed something! It’s called actual RESUME

Give me a list of P4P top 20 or Future HOFamers Bud has fought or beat....


And I’ll give you Canelo’s and their actual REAL ranking at the time....

Lol you bringing up Khan when Canelo almost killed him smh.

I repeated this point several times now, we are here to determine who is the best boxer in the world. I understand that the consensus for Canelo for P4P has derived from the general standard of resume, this in my opinion is a flawed system, which is lacking practical application and deviates from the original premise.

P4P is, if Terence Crawford were to fight Canelo Alvarez without any weight advantage, who wins?

They both can only accumulate a certain amount of names in their records that accounts for experience, but then you have to factor the skills, chin, heart, stamina, ring IQ in this fantasy match -- Some of you guys have lost the whole picture of what is P4P.

I think Bud shuts-down Canelo based on styles, kind of like how Mayweather or Lara made easy-work of Alvarez. The blue-print is out on Canelo.

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You sound like Drumpf supporter.
I’ve been on this site since 2008 you moron. Look up Mzembe (my other Avatar - just can’t remember my PW hence the new moniker).

Now, that we’re done with the díck measuring contest, how is Canelo similar to PAC?

PAC’s MO has been the same since the Oscar fight. Those are facts

I checked your profile and post history as Mzembe, you got an obsession with Mayweather-Pac, I avoid poster like you, its going to be 2020 bro, please move on.

I'm here to talk about relevant discussions, you came out of left-field triggered by your fixation the minute you read Pacs name in this thread -- I'm not even a Pacquaio fan, but I respect the man.

Later bro, get some help.

[Bandman]

Canelo #1

Bud and loma can fight for the #2 spot

[NotaPachugger]

Reader v real the guy has been breading bum after bum for a few c years now. Actions speak louder than words and he is a bum beater!

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Reader v real the guy has been breading bum after bum for a few c years now. Actions speak louder than words and he is a bum beater!

Its about time someone argued on the behalf of Bumchenko. However, I dont have Lomachenko even top five: I just dont think someone that struggles with Luke Campbell would beat Terence 'Bud' Crawford head-up.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Crawford thinks beating an old Amir Khan puts him on the P4P list. It's funny he even cares - he hasn't even fought the best around his weight yet.

[Kiowhatta]

Loma also dispatched Gary Russell Jr, and make consecutive opponents quit on their stools out of frustration.
He possesses extraordinary skills and is a truly precocious talent.
Crawford always will be second to Loma, and it’s crowded after that.
Canelo is talented but cheapens his ability by cherry-picking.
I’d also make a case for Inoue, and then I think AJ deserves a spot in the top ten.
Wilder doesn’t make the cut, Spence is close, and depending on what happens at LHW either Beterbiev or Bivol.

[Phill lynott]

Ok, opinion it is and the only one that matters.. Bottom line---Canelo and crawford are levels below Loma!
C and C can flip a coin where they stand with each other I don't give a damn! Or start a new list p4ppretender...

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Loma also dispatched Gary Russell Jr, and make consecutive opponents quit on their stools out of frustration.
He possesses extraordinary skills and is a truly precocious talent.
Crawford always will be second to Loma, and it’s crowded after that.
Canelo is talented but cheapens his ability by cherry-picking.
I’d also make a case for Inoue, and then I think AJ deserves a spot in the top ten.
Wilder doesn’t make the cut, Spence is close, and depending on what happens at LHW either Beterbiev or Bivol.

[Shadoww702]

I understand VADA was founded in 2011, a year before Saul had fought Shane Mosley. In my reference to drug testing I used VADA, because I thought you were alluding that the WBO did not or does not have mandatory VADA testing ( last time I checked ), as does the WBC, and thereby I thought you indirectly/passively questioned or threw shade at Terence clean record for PEDS.

-- you referred to the WBO as a minor title by calling it a 'trinket'. I personally dont have a bias for the WBO btw.

I use to root for Canelo, dont get me wrong, I appreciate his effort and skill. I only go hard in Nelo because he let me down with the Clen, I have a zero tolerance policy on drugs.

I repeated this point several times now, we are here to determine who is the best boxer in the world. I understand that the consensus for Canelo for P4P has derived from the general standard of resume, this in my opinion is a flawed system, which is lacking practical application and deviates from the original premise.

P4P is, if Terence Crawford were to fight Canelo Alvarez without any weight advantage, who wins?

They both can only accumulate a certain amount of names in their records that accounts for experience, but then you have to factor the skills, chin, heart, stamina, ring IQ in this fantasy match -- Some of you guys have lost the whole picture of what is P4P.

I think Bud shuts-down Canelo based on styles, kind of like how Mayweather or Lara made easy-work of Alvarez. The blue-print is out on Canelo.

If you have Lara making easy work out of Canelo No matter how many facts I prove you wrong you’ll just shove your head further up your @ss. So I’m not gonna even try.


But I’ve seen this boogeyman sht a 1,000x and the myth gets busted once real fight real...