Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Don't Believe Loma, Canelo Have Passed Me On P4P List

[Oregonian]

Well to give Alvarez a shot in a head-to-head resume check against Pacquiao, I cut it down to 2016 to the present.

Manny Pacs resume in the last few years rivals Canelo's. Since 2016 Saul Alvarez has : Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Gennadiy Golovkin, Danny Jacobs, Rocky Fielding, Sergey Kovalev.

Compare to Manny's resume : Timothy Bradley Jr, Jessie Vargas, Jeff Horn ( controversial ), Lucas Matthysse, Adrien Broner, Keith Thurman ( Prime ), at 40 years of age is arguably a better catalog of work.

If you factor in weight, its not even close as Pacman is the GOAT when it comes to climbing the scales.

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What’s the point of climbing scales if you’re fighting BUMS (Brandon Rios, Mathysse, Horn, Mathysse, David Diaz, Algieri etc) or weight draining them (Oscar, Cotto, Margarito) or guys coming off losses (Broner, Mosley, Clottey) etc.

Every time Manny steps up against better boxers he gets beat - Mayweather, Bradley etc.

Now rumor had it he is looking to fight another bum, Khan.

[1hourRun]

I edited it before your post to avoid you thinking what you responded. My point wasn't to hate on bud nor say hes a cheat,my point was that Canelo was doing vada every fight from a very young age & lives in a country where eating at a restaurant will get you popped for clen. Crawford went after the easiest of all belts at ww,& he was no more unified at 140 than canelo was at mw after beating Jacobs. Crawford unified by fighting weak champs & then vacated rather than defend them even once,he then has fought 4 no hopers at ww that were penciled in as wins the minute he signed to fight them.

Canelo unified status at 160 is not on the same level as Terence's lineal and undisputed crown, Billy Joe held that one 'trinket' as you put it , you know the WBO middleweight title?

You talk about Canelo having participating in VADA for a long time, yet I think he started drug testing when he was close to 44-0 ( HA! ).

To your point about Crawford cherry-picking Jeff Horn: Keith Thurman was unified champion ( WBA-WBC ) when Terence moved up to welterweight. Thurman was injured by the time Bud moved up to 147 for almost two years! As a result of Thurman's inactivity, Keith had to vacate the WBC title. This lead to Porter-Garcia for the vacant WBC welterweight championship.

Leaving Errol Spence jr. as the only active champion, what did Errol tell Bud? Get a belt, well thats what Bud went out and did. Context.

Sorry if I missed anything.

[Boxing Goat]

News flash Bud, you've never been higher on the P4P list for Loma to have passed you up. That said, he's right about Canelo in my opinion.

[1hourRun]

Tiny Gamboa???

Yeah Crawford knocked him out, remember?

When has Bud fought bigger p4p boxers??? Actually Bud always looks bigger??? Just sayin

I mean hes really trying, considering 147 is his third weight.

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What’s the point of climbing scales if you’re fighting BUMS (Brandon Rios, Mathysse, Horn, Mathysse, David Diaz, Algieri etc) or weight draining them (Oscar, Cotto, Margarito) or guys coming off losses (Broner, Mosley, Clottey) etc.

Every time Manny steps up against better boxers he gets beat - Mayweather, Bradley etc.

Now rumor had it he is looking to fight another bum, Khan.

Glad you see the similarities in how Canelo drains his opponents like Pac. Just sit back and learn rookie, I been here longer than you.

[kushking]

Canelo unified status at 160 is not on the same level as Terence's lineal and undisputed crown, Billy Joe held that one 'trinket' as you put it , you know the WBO middleweight title?

You talk about Canelo having participating in VADA for a long time, yet I think he started drug testing when he was close to 44-0 ( HA! ).

To your point about Crawford cherry-picking Jeff Horn: Keith Thurman was unified champion ( WBA-WBC ) when Terence moved up to welterweight. Thurman was injured by the time Bud moved up to 147 for almost two years! As a result of Thurman's inactivity, Keith had to vacate the WBC title. This lead to Porter-Garcia for the vacant WBC welterweight championship.

Leaving Errol Spence jr. as the only active champion, what did Errol tell Bud? Get a belt, well thats what Bud went out and did. Context.

Sorry if I missed anything.

You're mixing up what I say about Bud. Hows this: Buds p4p #2 on my p4p along with several other fighters which are all tied behind Canelo who is the only current fighter who is fighting all the biggest names & draws from multiple weightclasses anywhere near his weight.(he follows the script atg fighters are supposed to follow which is to fight winnable challenging fights where nobody knows for sure what'll happen beforehand on a steady basis while his contemporaries are fighting a shell of his leftovers like AmirCon or making excuses why they can't sacrifice to get a deal done v the best)

You're wrong though about ped testing, before Canelo started doing Vada every fight,Vada was in its infancy in Boxing & inferior usada(ukad equivalent) was what was used which was also used by canelo since age 20 when he faced Mosely.(all boxers were using usada because VADA wasn't around in Boxing)


I rate Crawford equally to Spence at this moment & I have always favored Spence over bud as you well know, but Spence has fought better fighters than Bud(& I was among only few on here saying Spence/porter was a pickem fight because Porter has amazing abilities to make fights ugly to opponents detriment,most on here were saying Spence by ko & I said there's no way porter gets stopped or beaten badly.)

[Tecnoworld]

Crawford is #1 imo. Loma #2 and Alvares #3. If Alvares fights and wins vs Beterbiev and Bivol gets to #2 or even #1.

[Shadoww702]

Canelo unified status at 160 is not on the same level as Terence's lineal and undisputed crown, Billy Joe held that one 'trinket' as you put it , you know the WBO middleweight title?

You talk about Canelo having participating in VADA for a long time, yet I think he started drug testing when he was close to 44-0 ( HA! ).

To your point about Crawford cherry-picking Jeff Horn: Keith Thurman was unified champion ( WBA-WBC ) when Terence moved up to welterweight. Thurman was injured by the time Bud moved up to 147 for almost two years! As a result of Thurman's inactivity, Keith had to vacate the WBC title. This lead to Porter-Garcia for the vacant WBC welterweight championship.

Leaving Errol Spence jr. as the only active champion, what did Errol tell Bud? Get a belt, well thats what Bud went out and did. Context.

Sorry if I missed anything.

Yeah you missed something! It’s called actual RESUME

Give me a list of P4P top 20 or Future HOFamers Bud has fought or beat....


And I’ll give you Canelo’s and their actual REAL ranking at the time....

Lol you bringing up Khan when Canelo almost killed him smh.

[MrShakeAndBake]

Not counting has beens with glass jaws, this clown’s best win is Postol... let that sink in...

[Oregonian]

Yeah Crawford knocked him out, remember?

I mean hes really trying, considering 147 is his third weight.

Glad you see the similarities in how Canelo drains his opponents like Pac. Just sit back and learn rookie, I been here longer than you.

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You sound like Drumpf supporter.
I’ve been on this site since 2008 you moron. Look up Mzembe (my other Avatar - just can’t remember my PW hence the new moniker).

Now, that we’re done with the díck measuring contest, how is Canelo similar to PAC?

PAC’s MO has been the same since the Oscar fight. Those are facts

[strumvargas]

Sorry crawford is beast but has not fought top level competition to be number 1 sorry crawford just speaking facts