Why is Joshua excused for losing to Ruiz?

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  • El_Mero
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    #71
    Originally posted by BoZz
    Wilder has many belts like Joshua but one thing joshy doens't have is the belt which matters most the WBC belt..which actually belongs to fury, we all know he got robbed but if wilder's belt are rubbish what are joshy's belts?

    Hey at least when ruiz had them he had them for destroying and making joshua quite, joshy has all those worthless belts for out running ruiz..clap clap
    you lost the convo with that false statement.

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #72
      I would take another fight that would help me at the negotiating table, which is exactly what Fury and Wilder did.

      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Let's say your fantasy world is true and Joshua lowballs. You'd still take the easier fight for more money, if you actually thought it was easier. Stop your nonsense.

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #73
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        I would take another fight that would help me at the negotiating table, which is exactly what Fury and Wilder did.
        You'd take a fight that you are more likely to lose over the easier with more money? If you beat Joshua you become a much bigger draw anyway. You're talking nonsense.

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        • Heavyshake
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          #74
          Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
          and is still a two time unified Heavyweight Champion of the World.

          There are no other 2x Unified HW Champs in the HW Division. Joshua stands alone, above all others, in that respect.
          He's only 2 time because he lost to the blob, that's doesn't make it better it makes it worse.

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          • OnlytheTruth
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            #75
            Originally posted by Heavyshake
            He's only 2 time because he lost to the blob, that's doesn't make it better it makes it worse.
            But still has done more in his career than any other active HW.

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            • ShaneMosleySr
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              #76
              Maybe Wilder and Fury thought they would win both fights.

              Since Joshua is the one that allows for a massive purse, it would be worth taking the fight that helps at the negotiating table.

              Worst case scenario is a loss and you have to take what Joshua was offering previously.

              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              You'd take a fight that you are more likely to lose over the easier with more money? If you beat Joshua you become a much bigger draw anyway. You're talking nonsense.

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                #77
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                Maybe Wilder and Fury thought they would win both fights.

                Since Joshua is the one that allows for a massive purse, it would be worth taking the fight that helps at the negotiating table.

                Worst case scenario is a loss and you have to take what Joshua was offering previously.
                What you think they'd get offered the same by Joshua if they lose? They won't be in the conversation.

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #78
                  Joshua would fight Fury and Wilder even if they lost a fight.

                  It’s the two biggest fights he can make.

                  And they would actually make more than the offers Joshua originally made anyway. They’re both making more than the offers Joshua originally made to fight other fighters.

                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  What you think they'd get offered the same by Joshua if they lose? They won't be in the conversation.

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                  • b Murphington
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                    #79
                    I think he needs to be given proper credit for the way he came back. It’s not jumping on his d#ck, it’s just understanding what he just did.

                    Joshua is far from a perfect boxer we know this, but he almost pitched a shutout after getting utterly obliterated. That’s hard to do.

                    “Of the ten occasions a losing world heavyweight champion has attempted to regain their belt in an immediate rematch, only three have been successful, five lost and two drew.“

                    I got that from an article written here earlier this month. https://www.boxingscene.com/heavywei...ows-us--144756

                    The fact that this was against Ruiz is irrelevant I think. There are numerous occasions throughout history where a seemingly superior boxer loses in great fashion to a seemingly inferior boxer. Blame it on an off night for the better boxer, blame it on a great night for the inferior boxer.

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