Be Honest, Luis Ortiz > Andy Ruiz

[SplitSecond]

Maybe so. Yet still Joshua’s resume >>>>>> Wilder’s

[Cutthroat]

Looking at Ruiz and Ortiz resume, then definitely Ruiz. He has fought two notable name in their primes, won one and lost the other, Ortiz has fought two notable names (Lost to one and won the other). But Ruiz's won was more significant because he beat a bigger name and was a world champion. Ortiz beat Jennings who isn't much more than a Seth Mitchell.

AJ lost bc he was overrated lol. Ruiz's wins outside of AJ are not better than Stiverne or Jennings.

Seth Mitchell? Wlad couldn't even drop Jennings nor could he outbox him effectively. Imagine Mitchell going 12 in a competitive bout against Wlad, aint happening. Even these days he was outboxing Rivas more effectively than Whyte.

[Cutthroat]

Maybe so. Yet still Joshua’s resume >>>>>> Wilder’s

I'm taking Wilders all day. Wilder hasnt been brutally stopped, he beat Ortiz, Stiverne, AJ has fought 1 HW in the top 5 & that was a guy that got completely and I mean completely shut out in his last bout, and before that had struggled with Jennings.

[HeadShots]

Maybe so. Yet still Joshua’s resume >>>>>> Wilder’s

when was the last time Wilder got KOed by a 5'10, 300 pound, t-rex armed bum?

[HeadShots]

Yes you can. resume is everything.

Why don`t people take pro boxing seriously? because top 1-5 guys are fighting guys ranked 15 -20.

You can`t claim who is better if guys never fight.

not in this scenerio.

this scenerio is exactly like the Moorer/Tua situation. Just because Moorer beat a hall of famer and was a champ doesn't mean he would've beat Tua. Tua was always the superior fighter to moorer.


Ortiz would box Andy's head off and possibly stop him.

[Marchegiano]

They should fight next.

[Ray*]

AJ lost bc he was overrated lol. Ruiz's wins outside of AJ are not better than Stiverne or Jennings.

Seth Mitchell? Wlad couldn't even drop Jennings nor could he outbox him effectively. Imagine Mitchell going 12 in a competitive bout against Wlad, aint happening. Even these days he was outboxing Rivas more effectively than Whyte.

That doesn’t change anything. Ruiz KO’ed that overrated Joshua. Which is better than anything the overrated/overhyped Ortiz has ever accomplished.

[4truth]

Ruiz/Ortiz, make it happen. My pick would be Ruiz. Ortiz, especially Ortiz today, would not be able to stay out of harm's way. If it comes down to Ortiz and Ruiz trading shots, and I think it would, Ortiz breaks down first.

[SplitSecond]

when was the last time Wilder got KOed by a 5'10, 300 pound, t-rex armed bum?

Who cares if he finally lost? He’s beaten Parker, Klitschko, Whyte, Povetkin, Ruiz. Wilder has beaten, Ortiz. That’s the only notable win in his resume.

[Luilun]

The Fatso with the quicker hands wins