Is Dillian Whyte suing Boxingscene?

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #51
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    There's a reason why celebrities go to the UK to sue newspapers for defamation. We have the craziest laws in the world for this.

    I remember a story, I want to say it's that curly haired guy from the band queen. There was a story in the newspaper that he was gay, and he sued the newspaper on the grounds that he had previously denied being gay and so it made him out to be a liar. He won.. and only a few years later it came out that he was gay

    There are so many crazy stories where the allegation is totally true but the defamation suit is based on loss of potential earnings etc. again fair grounds to sue on. That's why you'll hear people in the media, when they give controversial statements say "it's my opinion that..."

    Because under 'fair comment' law you can pretty much say whatever you want as long as you say it's an opinion and not present it as a fact. There are loads of these funny little things.

    I suspect the article says Whyte 'failed a drug test' which is not true and therefore he can sue quite easily anyway.
    Mmm. A simple Wiki search makes me question how useful this litigation would be against a US citizen like Hauser or US based site like the Scene. Even if it got through the UK courts getting the US to agree to any kind of enforcement might be a different matter.

    English defamation law puts the burden of proving the truth of allegedly defamatory statements on the defendant, rather than the plaintiff, and has been considered an impediment to free speech in much of the developed world. In many cases of libel tourism, plaintiffs sued in England to censor critical works when their home countries would reject the case outright. In the United States, the 2010 SPEECH Act makes foreign libel judgements unenforceable and unrecognizable by U.S. courts if they don't comply with U.S. protections for freedom of speech and due process, and was made largely in response to the English laws.[4]

    The Defamation Act 2013 substantially reformed English defamation law in recognition of these concerns, by strengthening the criteria (including geographical relevance criteria) for a successful claim, mandating evidence of actual or probable harm, curtailing sharply the scope for claims of continuing defamation (in which republication or continued visibility comprises ongoing renewed defamation), and enhancing the scope of existing defences for website operators, public interest, and privileged publications, including peer reviewed scientific journals.[5] The 2013 law applies to causes of action occurring after its commencement on 1 January 2014;[6] old libel law will therefore still apply in many 2014–2015 defamation cases where the events complained of took place before commencement. Northern Ireland is not subject to the Defamation Act 2013 and has not passed a similar reform. This has already caused controversy regarding the publishing of the book and broadcasting of the documentary Going Clear.[7]


    The article does mention libel tourism and the like but also seems to indicate that UK law has been tightened from 2014 onwards to bring ot more in line with international - or more specifically US - law, and that US laws were modified in 2010 to combat litigation tourism by US citizens coming to the UK.

    Still, one can only assume that Whyte will be acting on advice given by his lawyers so I'd have to expect there's more to it than that, I'd like to assume they'd only bring the case if they thought there was a reasonable chance of success.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-08-2019, 11:09 AM.

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #52
      He failed a test. Even if it’s an adverse analytical finding, he failed a drug test.

      So what Hauser reported was true. He couldn’t look into the future and determine what UKAD would rule, he just knows what happened in the present, a failed test.

      Someone told him and he reported something true about a public figure.

      The end.

      Originally posted by PotentialToast
      It is breech on confidence, both in the US and the UK. It is clearly actionable. He did not fail a test. He had an adverse analytical finding which was not considered a failed test. UKAD employ the same confidential procedure as WADA.

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        #53
        For reporting something accurate about a public figure? LMFAO

        Originally posted by Ray*
        No he is suing Thomas Hauser and whoever leaked the confidential information to him from the UKAD or laboratory testing facility.

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          #54
          Actually, you don’t understand.

          Originally posted by LacedUp
          You don't understand media law.

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            #55
            Journalists aren’t bound by UKAD regulations.

            Hauser didn’t leak anything, he’s a reporter. Someone leaked it to him. He broke the news.

            Whyte doesn’t have a leg to stand on because he’s a public figure and Hauser’s report was accurate.

            Originally posted by Ray*
            We can’t because it’s confidential. Just like the Whyte case was until Hauser leaked it.

            Hauser was the only journalist who took the bait according to my “Sources”.

            Loads of journalist were offered the same leakage but some of them refused because they knew about WADA (UKAD) confidential code.

            Most of the journalist who were offered the leakage were british doe so maybe they just knew something like this could happen.

            The fact that the WBC used that as an excuse to push back Whyte’s mandatory until feb 2021 is what Team Whyte are using as Hauser damaging his career. They are serving him on that basis.

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              #56
              Whyte failed a drug test. That’s true. Therefore Hauser’s report was a truthful report about a public figure.

              Originally posted by LacedUp
              This is not true. He can easily file a lawsuit for defamation if there's been one single article read by more than one person, that even suggests that he's done something illegal.

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                #57
                So Dianabol was not found in his system, then?

                Because that would be the only way he might have a case.

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                  #58
                  The source was correct.

                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Even if the source is incorrect, any publisher that re-publishes can be sued on similar grounds.

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                    #59
                    Why do you think UKAD’s policy on confidentiality applies to reporters?

                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Hauser is definitely the name they are going for along with his sources, the WBC didn’t help by using it to push back his mandatory, which is the angle his solicitors are going for, which was Hauser costed him a multimillion dollar chance at the WBC belt by reporting a confidential information. And based on that he lost his mandatory spot to Fury for another 12 months.

                    We all know the WBC would still have blocked him anyways from fight Wilder regardless of the adverse findings.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Actually, you don’t understand.


                      Alright dumbo.

                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Whyte failed a drug test. That’s true. Therefore Hauser’s report was a truthful report about a public figure.
                      He clearly did not fail a drugs test.

                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      The source was correct.
                      That had nothing to do with the quote dumbo.

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